Designer in wall wiring - worth it?


I have two dedicated outlets for my system using standard 12 gauge with short runs of about 15' to the breaker box. I used 12 gauge in this case due to the very short runs. I have recently experienced some very positive results with Audience speaker and ethernet cables, and it got me thinking it would not be crazy money to try the Audience in-wall shielded 10 gauge cable. Has anyone tried the Audience cable or other "designer" AC cabling? Did you find it to be a significant upgrade?

 

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@jea48 as far as I know the audience hidden treasure in wall cable has all the proper certifications to pass an inspection.

@zlone excellent. Should reveal difference in wiring if any. My only reservation would be that it may change the sound signature of your system and there’s a potential for a domino effect with other cables and even components. 

@invalid, I believe you are correct! I stand corrected!

I found this info on the "Cable Company" Website.

It appears it is Listed as in wall branch circuit wiring.

Hidden Treasure In-Wall AC Power Cable - Bulk,  by Audience

Compliances

Industry Compliances:
UL 1569
UL 44
ICEA S-95-658/NEMA WC70
UL Type MC-600 volts, UL File # E90496
NEC Type XHW-2 conductors

Flame Test Compliances:
IEEE 383 (70,000 BTU/hr)
UL 1581 (70,000 BTU/hr)
IEEE 1202 (70,000 BTU/hr) CSA FT4
ICEA T-29 520 (210,000 BTU/hr)

Other Compliances:
EPA 40 CFR, Part 261 for leachable lead
content per TCLP method
OSHA Acceptable
RoHS Compliant

 

Specifications 

Conductor: 10 AWG bare compressed copper
Insulation: Flame-retardant Cross-linked Polyethylene (XLPE)
Ground: Annealed bare copper
Resistance: 0.056 ohms/foot
Inductance: 0.87uH/foot
Capacitance: 4.47nF/foot
Jacket: Flame-retardant, moisture- and sunlight-resistant Polyvinyl Chloride (PVC), black
Color-coded: Per ICEA Method

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In the description:

Hidden Treasure features three 10 AWG stranded copper conductors, insulated in polyethylene and can be used for either 120V or 240V.

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In the Specifications it says, "Ground: Annealed bare copper".

I can’t see the bare ground wire in the picture. It must be there though, along with a drain wire for the shield.

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I once tried Kimber, my house wiring shut down because of it, I swear these people live in a dream world.

Solid core is always what should be used as it does not overheat and limit the gauge to that which your breaker reflects as maximum current for the line.

I know I do sound rather sorry and apologise for not knowing the product you refer to, but after my Kimber incident, to me it's like putting Balls in a fat fryer

I once tried Kimber, my house wiring shut down because of it, I swear these people live in a dream world.

Solid core is always what should be used as it does not overheat and limit the gauge to that which your breaker reflects as maximum current for the line.

I know I do sound rather sorry and apologise for not knowing the product you refer to, but after my Kimber incident, to me it’s like putting Balls in a fat fryer

Good example for not using a cable that is not designed, manufactured, or Listed for use as AC mains power wiring. I remember reading a posted message on another audio forum where a member built a power cord using multiple paralleled runs CAT 5 Ethernet cable. 

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FYI,

Solid and stranded wire have the same Ampacity rating.

NEC Table 310.16 Ampacities of Insulated Conductors With Not More than Three Conductors Current-Carrying Conductors in Raceway, Cable, or Earth (Direct Buried)

Yes, Romex, (NM-B sheath cable), Sizes, 14, 12, and 10AWG conductors are solid wire. But, #8AWG and larger are stranded wire conductors.

MC (Metal Clad) cable is made in both solid and stranded wire. #8AWG and larger are stranded wire only.

Individual insulated conductor #14, #12, #10AWG building electrical wire in manufactured in both solid and stranded wire. #8AWG and larger is stranded only.

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