Roon changes the music


... at least on Qobuz on my system.

Listening with an audio buddy who has a very critical ear to both Roon and Qobuz Connect. We agreed that quick AB comparisons of the same song with matched levels per the iPhone DBx app and no DSP, volume leveling etc., yielded a difference. As some of the listeners in this thread (https://forum.audiogon.com/discussions/does-roon-sound-different?highlight=Does%2Broon%2Bcolor%2Bthe%2Bmusic) found, "ROON has a certain "house sound" that blurs contours and softens treble." and "Roon is a bit softer in the upper midrange and images do not stand out in such relief as jplay". It was not subtle. Need to listen more to see if it’s an improvement or a step back. Too early to tell but there is certainly a difference.

Since I have been struggling with Qobuz connectivity, I am again considering going to Tidal, which is no biggie, but now I am also concerned that I may have to give up Roon. That would suck because I really like the Roon UI and the fact that all my music is organized there.

tcutter

I always enjoy learning what different people hear.  I used Roon on a dedicated headless NUC, no DSP, no auto-leveling, and no other do-dads for close to 10 years.  I played it through a pretty good stereo system and really enjoyed the sound…a lot. The stereo was almost always playing at least in the background. The last Roon update wouldn’t run on my NUC ☹️, so it went to computer heaven.  I have Qobuz and Tidal, and I prefer Qobuz for sound quality.  I have since been using Qobuz Connect and Mosaic (I have a dCS dac), and neither is even close to the sound I got from Roon running on the NUC. The stereo sounds like a high quality radio now and is rarely on.  
 

I’ve since heard a demo of a really high end Innuos streamer which played Qobuz better than I’ve ever heard before!!  I’ve decided to get a good (but not the really high end one $$$!!!) Innuos and am waiting for it to arrive.  I a, really wanting my awesome stereo back.

@audphile1 

Thank you.

AI tells me that Bubble UPnP Server won’t make a significant difference to sound quality because it does very little beyond making jPlay compatible with Linn’s protocol. Basically, it is just changing a small bit of code. I don’t think I’ve got anything to lose by trying it out. The worst thing that can happen is it may not be as stable as UPnP and the Linn App. If I don’t like it, I can easily uninstall it and get back to where I am now.
 

Have you taken a view on jPlay yet? Does it have most of the functionality of Roon.

@newton_john jplay has a very nice UI. It’s similar to Roon but does not have every feature of Roon. Example of a few features I think would be nice to have -

1. When browsing artist/composer/band albums, the list is sorted by release year descending. Roon gives you an option to sort by popularity which how I would prefer to view it

2. Option to select albums in MQA format. I stream both Qobuz and Tidal. My DAC has full MQA capabilities and happens to sound amazing playing MQA. I think Jplay is a bit odd in this regard. For example Patricia Barber “Clique” album is available in MQA thru Roon. Jplay shows CD quality but plays track 1 as MQA and the rest is 44-16. Roon pulls the entire album in MQA.

3. A bit more info on format would be nice at album level 

However, as I said the interface is really nice and I am extremely happy with the sound quality. 

Marcin from jplay frequents the forums. He posted here https://forum.audiogon.com/discussions/jplay-app/post?postid=2910160