Does anyone have a digital system that is as involving as their analogue front end?


I have a good analogue front end. Not stratuspherically good but good enough for this comparison. VPI Prime Signature 21 turntable, Pass Labs XP-25 pono preamp, Pass Labs XP-30 preamp and Hovland Radia amp. It has a lovely, very involving sound. On the right recording, I just drop everythng and am drawn in to listen.

My streamer, on the other hand, is decent but not spectacular. It is better than my CD player, but it is not jaw-dropping like my analogue front-end. My question is this: does anyone have a high-end, tier-one streamer (dCS Bartok Apex, Lumin X2, or something like them) that can rival a good analogue system?

audio-b-dog

@audio-b-dog my friend, who’s not an audiophile and doesn’t stream music, just replaced his TP Link Deco with eero 7 based on my recommendation after numerous issues in the course of several months that included drop outs and loss of network requiring frequent reboots. Eero is solid as a rock. I’ve been using it for years

I have never had problems with TP Link. Before I go into the expense of Eero, I'll see if another mesh will fix it. And partly, I'm not really sure it is the internet. I think the problem is that it drops at long cuts. Jplay just dropped in the middle of an 18 minute cut and did it a second and third time at exactly the same place. Mconnect got through the cut without any problem. It seems as though internet drop offs would be more random than that. I will try your mesh fix, but I think it has something to do with the handshake between the Meitner MA3i and the music interface. I have not yet figured out how to use Qobuz connect, but I will and I'll see how that works. I  think I'll also contact Meitner. To have two music interfaces, Jplay and Mconnect to drop off in the exact same place on a long cut doesn't seem like network. But I'll try the mesh fix and see what happens. I'm sure Eero is great, but it is also expensive. So I'll try some other things first.

@audio-b-dog the dropouts can be related to DNS (domain name system) which is your provider, at&t. We looked at changing DNS in TP Link Deco but there’s no way to do it. Eero allows you to change it to Google or Cloudflare  DNS and it will improve streaming. I think even the base eero might fix it. But yes try it with an extra mesh node. You can return it if it won’t make a difference. 
eero 7 https://a.co/d/03xs8O5t

good thing about eero is these are backward compatible with original which are like $40 and you can scatter them around your house. 
Just a thought…worth a try because once again if it doesn’t fix your issue you can send it back to amazon. I have a good feeling that it will address your dropouts. 
Also, qobuz connect is easy. Start a song on a qobuz app on ipad and hit the left bottom icon, select Meitner and there you go. 

Amazing that the string octet was composed by Mendelssohn when he was just 16 years old. I’ve listened using jplay Qobuz 24/96 and no dropouts. Went thru track 3 and played track 4.I really like this. Thanks to your Qobuz dropouts I added a new album to my favorites. 

@audphile1 

....to change it to Google or Cloudflare  DNS 

Yes, I forgot about this strategy. Going to have to try this again. I had it done previously but the ISP updated my hardware to the latest wifi 7 stuff a while back. However I just googled Google DNS (:) ) and it said it would have no effect on dropouts, just faster connection times, but I might as well give it a go again, as I am also still experiencing tracks quitting half way through and I assumed it was still a Qobuz issue: 

Switching to Google DNS will not fix physical signal dropouts, but it can resolve web connection errors or delays specifically caused by DNS server failures. DNS (Domain Name System) acts as the phonebook of the internet, translating web addresses like google.com into numerical IP addresses. [1, 2, 3, 4]

 

When it Helps

If your modem is connected, but pages fail to load or throw "Server Not Found" errors, your ISP’s DNS servers may be failing or overloaded. Switching to Google DNS (Primary: 8.8.8.8, Secondary: 8.8.4.4) or an alternative like Cloudflare (1.1.1.1) can offer better reliability and faster initial connection times. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]

 

When it Doesn’t Help

If your physical internet drops out (e.g., your router loses sync, Wi-Fi disconnects, or download speeds crash), changing your DNS will make no difference. These issues indicate a hardware fault, cabling issue, or an outage in your local area. [1, 2, 3, 4]

 

How to Change Your DNS

If you want to test it to see if it improves your browsing stability, you can change the settings on your devices or router: [1, 2, 3]

  • Computers (Windows/Mac): Go to your Network/Wi-Fi settings, locate your current IPv4 settings, and manually update the DNS server addresses to 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4. [1]
  • Router: Log into your router’s admin portal and change the primary and secondary DNS settings there (this applies the change to all devices on your home network). [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]