The Shunyata Research OMEGA-X-Ethernet Cable


frank009

@grunge1000 

I know you're not exactly talking to me - but I'll chime in.

+1 

Again, I'm so glad to hear realizations like this.

I've had audiophile friends in real life lose their life savings on cables alone. Wouldn't want anyone else to go through the same thing. Not even an enemy. 

@grunge1000 

Cable manufacturers bloviate at length about subjective parameters because that’s what audiophiles understand (faster bass, deeper soundstage, inky black noise floor, etc), whereas objective parameters like LCR go way over most folks’ heads, and that would not make effective marketing.

Also... no one really cares. Folks are prompted to buy expensive cables by dog whistles only they can hear, then they reverse-justify their actions using tall tales of magical sonic improvements.

At the end of the day, a cable manufacturer has little incentive to show that their cables are different because that’s not what sells them.

 

@frank009  why do you care if someone wants to spend money on high end audio cables, I think you are here to just stir the pot. Your other thread already has been removed, so move along.

@devinplombier 

At the end of the day, a cable manufacturer has little incentive to show that their cables are different because that’s not what sells them.

Dealers lend quality cables, of all types, to reputable customers.

When I purchased my stereo, 20 years ago, the store installed everything (speaker placement, connections, etc).  It sounded very good, but not as good as what they had in the store (I ordered the exact set-up that was in the store).  The difference in sound quality was partially due to my room having too much echo.  But the main reason was that I realized that the store was using Quicksilver interconnects, and that is not what they installed for me.

I gave them some grief over the deception, but they refused to hand me the Quicksilver interconnects as part of the purchase.  I met them half way, and they sold me the interconnects at below 50% of the list price (they did not want to take a loss).

When I connected those Quicksilver interconnects, it was a breath of fresh air.

A few years later, the store's owner handed me a box of interconnects from 6 or 7 reputable companies.  I spent the day swapping out the cables.  I heard differences each time -- but not enough to spend any money.  Some of the cables made things worse.

When I returned everything, and explained why, the store's owner handed me one other set of interconnects to demo.  I had no idea about them.  I was reluctant to try, after spending all day with those other cables.  But I relented, and it was a good thing that I relented.

Those last interconnects were demonstrably better.  I then put my very good Quicksilver interconnects back, and the magic was gone.  I purchased those interconnects.

I did not do so based on hype or reviews.  I did so based on my ears.

@frank009 has never done that.  He just bashes what he envies, trying to convince himself that he is not missing out.  Along the way, he will pick up a cable denier straggler or two, and that makes him feel a little better, but still he remains envious.

I am basing my conclusion on @frank009 never writing that he did any cable swaps, with quality cables (the ones he is bashing), on a revealing stereo.  He harps on science, science, and science, and he is not a scientist.  I doubt that he has ever heard a revealing stereo.

And science cannot measure all audio gear's sonic properties, today.  Decades from now, perhaps.  But not today.

And any real scientist will put her findings into practice.  In the case of cables, she would use her ears.  But not @frank009.  He tells us that we should believe his scientific claims, and ignore what we hear.  His computers work fine with standard cables, so stereos will not benefit from better quality cables, based on him never testing his assertions.