Does anyone have a digital system that is as involving as their analogue front end?


I have a good analogue front end. Not stratuspherically good but good enough for this comparison. VPI Prime Signature 21 turntable, Pass Labs XP-25 pono preamp, Pass Labs XP-30 preamp and Hovland Radia amp. It has a lovely, very involving sound. On the right recording, I just drop everythng and am drawn in to listen.

My streamer, on the other hand, is decent but not spectacular. It is better than my CD player, but it is not jaw-dropping like my analogue front-end. My question is this: does anyone have a high-end, tier-one streamer (dCS Bartok Apex, Lumin X2, or something like them) that can rival a good analogue system?

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Notwithstanding everything I have said in my previous post, I had a wonderful session last night listening to two Weather Report albums, Tail Spinnin’ and Night Passage ripped to DSD from SACDs. These were as involving as most albums on vinyl.

This despite my Roon NUC having to do the heavy lifting of converting the DSD to PCM in real time. Although, it was late at night when interference might be expected to be reduced.

There doesn’t seem to be a panacea that can give me perfect digital listening every time. This is far from an exact science. I just have to snatch those moments when the planets align.

@newton_john 

I know Hemingway and bullfighting are out of fashion. However, I think Hemingway can give us a good analogy from his book "Death in the Afternoon." He said that one would need to go to a hundred bullfigths to see a perfect one. I think playing music on our stereos can be comparable. (And to a certain degree going to hear a live concert, which I have done over a hundred times with just classical music. I once heard Joshua Bell conduct Beethoven's 6th and I walked out of the concert hall saying, "He ruined it.) 

Music can be lovely, calming, and all those other modifiers, but maybe once in a hundred times am I sitting on the edge of my seat, filled with the spirit of music (which  may have been humanity's first form of communication) am I filled with the absolute spirit of music.

@audphile1 @audphile1 I have both MA3i and XDS1v4 with DA2i dac, and the differences are meaningful, especially in terms of tonal weight, space, bass, and increased microdynamics. However, I agree it will likely be a long time before anything in the $10k range that will be better than the MA3i. I personally preferred the MA3i over the original DA2 as an overall dac. The last time the company had this large jump in quality was from DCC2 to DAC2x (and the Meitner version MA1). I think we will be fine for at least 5 years, if not longer. Meaningful R&D at the high end takes a long time. 

@newton_john in my experience…

if we’re looking for consistency in performance, in digital, it is CD and SACD. I’m talking physical media played back using a cd/sacd player or transport, not ripped files residing on a storage device and played via network. 
Just as consistent are the ripped files that reside on a drive that’s mounted inside a streamer that’s connected to a DAC, using the streamer’s native app to playback the files (i.e. Aurender streamers that allow SSD to be mounted inside the unit). Similarly a drive connected to a streamer via usb cable should be as consistent as the internal drive. Although sound quality might be impacted depending on implementation of that USB interface. 

Files played bavk via local network are also a good option but now we’re introducing variables…network speed, router noise, etc.

Vinyl can also be inconsistent in that it wears out with each play, has different levels of static due to humidity changes in your room that will impact playback, room temperature that affects cartridge performance , dirty records, etc.

There’s no perfect format :)

 

I think we will be fine for at least 5 years, if not longer. Meaningful R&D at the high end takes a long time. 
 

@chesebert agreed