Cable Quality Control and Objective Reviewers


Cable quality control is rarely discussed among audiophiles I know in person.

They would much rather chat about the claims made by manufacturers that include specific, system-level improvements that cannot be validated. 

I’m all for high quality cables with proper terminations for long-term reliability, and proper gauge wires, and connections that fit snugly enough on ports. 

I was browsing the web yesterday and found this: Kimber RCA Cable vs Amazon Basics (Video) | Audio Science Review (ASR) Forum

Now, in all fairness, the Kimber cable is a luxury item first, and an audiophile item second.

I really like a brand called "world’s best cables" on amazon. Their cables are very high quality and the their quality control is top notch.

How do I know this?

Well I’ve used their cables for many years; and have spliced some of them open just out of curiosity to see what’s inside, because I intentionally bought extras just for that purpose.

I really hate cost cutting in audio. Especially when it happens to be from a vendor that should do better. 

Inside the amazon basics RCA cable, we find mostly heavy-duty tubing and very little copper. 

The worst cable I’ve ever seen was the Hosa HRR-005X2 5-Feet Dual REAN RCA Pro Stereo Interconnect Cable.

Cut it open, and inside found what looked like a cotton ball stretched apart, and the thinnest, cheapest, ugliest copper I had ever seen in my life. Thinner than hair on people who have very thin hair. Weak, brittle copper that was soft and rough to the touch as the same time. Disgusting. 

Did it make a difference in my system? Yes it did. 

And not in a good way. the midrange became "glassy" and the treble took on a hard edge. The bass frequencies sounded more rounded and less tight, and the soundstage shrunk. I hated them... 

Now before anyone accuses me of talking nonsense, we need to acknowledge that cables are physical devices and don’t pass sound through a quantum vacuum. Physics still applies, whether objective reviewers like it or not. It’s not an opinion, it’s a fact.

Interconnects measured under resistive loads will of course not be impacted in the same way as how they are when plugged in to real audio electronics. Numerous electrical factors are missing from the equation with "test bench only" reviews.

It’s like saying a piece of chocolate tastes good - in isolation (on its own) 

But melted in to a cake you’re baking - well that’s a different equation. The flavor of the cake will change; the balance and texture may change too... You get the idea.

The cable being so thin, the dielectric being so lousy, and the shielding being so poor means it could not only pick up noise, but acted as a suboptimal conductor; a bad bridge between two points -input and output. And I’d wager to say the most important connection, even before your source is between your preamplifier and power amplifier. Keep the resistance and cable length as short as possible, and choose truly high quality interconnects.

Some may dismiss this as folklore, yet videos like this paint a broad brush and force a specific kind of cognitive dissonance on the audience: 

$4000 Audio Cable vs $7!!!

First of all, it’s heading is completely illogical. 

What it sounds like: 400 dollar steak vs. 7 dollar prime rib sub from a random shop in a ghetto.

The naysayers, non audiophiles, and people who genuinely hate us for our hobby will laugh and write drivel in the comment section on the video as they always do, talking about how we’re such fools.

Yet we have a right to pay for quality control and a higher bill of materials is a often a better indicator that a manufacturer "did their homework" and has higher quality control standards. 

This has been my experience with interconnects.

frank009

@fatdaddy2 

Because I know that cables from those brands are associated with folklore - In other words, improvements that cannot be validated. 

It’s common sense. 

In addition, power cords are not in the signal path. 

If the power cord is of sufficient gauge for the electricity passing through it, then it won’t impact sound quality.

Read that again.

The real work happens at the power transformers inside audio equipment, rectification, conversion to DC, so the component can utilize that power.

Want a real upgrade?

Plug in your power amplifier or even integrated amplifier in to the wall, rather than in to a fancy audiophile power conditioner.

Give it its own dedicated 15A line. 

Not swapping out power cables senselessly.

@audphile1 seems to have no understanding of how power cables actually work. 

It's a sad situation.

As I said earlier, I was a VP of Manufacturing and Quality Control.

If power cables really made that much of a difference in audio systems, then that benefit would be extended to other electronics, including specialized scientific and medical equipment, of which my teams were responsible for. 

Yet, they all used standard power cords or hospital-grade.

Back in the early days of Hi-Fi, most amplifiers, DACs, and CD players had their own inbuilt power cords. They were not detachable.

Get with the program.

You really are a clown. Show your real face ... Post a real photo of yourself as your profile photo.

Why stop there with your demands for personal information? Perhaps you should also consider demanding that we provide our home address, employment history, and Social Security number. Why don't you contact the moderators and demand that they require that information be provided to you? That way you won't have to battle with each of us individually. It would save you a lot of time.

 

@cleeds 

Because I think pretending to be Paulie from the Sopranos on an audio forum is kind of pathetic.

You are asking me for A LOT more information, which is outrageous.

For those who don’t know, it seems like you’re chatting with a tough Italian Mobster guy. All I'm asking is to see the chump himself - so I get a visual of exactly who I'm talking to.

I will upload a photo of myself in my profile photo too, if he does.

@audphile1 has a tough guy persona, but in real life he’s probably softer than Daniel Larusso.

@frank009, don't try to impress us with your VP title. I was Sr Director of Quality, Environment and Safety, working in the aerospace field for almost 50 years. One thing that confuses me is that your original post focuses almost exclusively on interconnects, then all of a sudden your responses switch to power cables. Why?

@fatdaddy2 

I don't care to impress anyone, and I have never needed to in real life.

You may not be so lucky.

Because it's another vector of discussion. Something your simple mind can't wrap around.