Do You Ever Get Glare/Raspy Sound on High Pitched Female Vocal Lines?


I sometimes get a harsh glare or slightly raspy sound on female vocal lines when they sing loud, high pitched notes.  It’s hard to explain the sound exactly, but if you’ve ever experienced it, you’ll know what I’m speaking of.  Two examples are Norah Jones, Don’t Know Why at 1:57 with line  “You’ll be ON my mind”.   The other is Michael Bluble’s Quando, Quando, Quando featuring Nelly Furtardo.  Her line “I can’t wait a moment more, Tell me quando, quando, quando” at 1:53 is another good example.  This happens at moderate to fairly loud volume levels. 

Trying to determine if it’s coming from the midrange section or quasi ribbon tweeter, I’ve disconnected the speaker jumpers from one while keeping the other jumped and found it occurs in both the midrange and the tweeters.  I’ve also swapped out two other DACs and have bypassed the preamp by going directly to the amp from the DACS, but it makes no difference.  It doesn’t sound like clipping distortion or typical speaker breakup.  I’ve even inserted 1 ohm resistors on the Magnepans  and while it reduces it a bit, it’s still there.  I can also hear it to a somewhat lesser degree on my old Theil 1.5s and KEF KS50s at fairly loud, but not crazy volume levels.  Both of those speakers are driven with 400 watt @ 4 Ohms and a 300 watt @ 4 Ohms amps respectively.  I can’t imagine that I’m clipping the amps.

Does anyone else have this occur on their systems?  Any ideas on what’s going on here?

My system is Magnepan 3.7x speakers, PS Audio Airlens, Stellar Gold DAC, PMG Signature preamp & BHK 250 amp, streaming Tidal. 

stevehardy1

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I too had maggis… The .7’s on Magna Risers, ditched em after 2 years missing the slam and attack I so desired. I messed around with various resistors, .5 & 1.0, but never got the sound I was looking for. What Maggi’s do they do very well, and everyone should have a pair once in their audiophile journey, but many times I felt they made it that I was only listening to music that sounded good on my Maggi’s leaving out out of the stuff I loved being it didn’t sound good. 
 

Try a .5 resistor and if you still have the issue, seriously consider you may have an issue with your hearing. Hearing tests are generally NO Charge, you have nothing to loose. 
 

Good luck 

In full agreement w/ Erik & others, speaker placement / room interactions can greatly affect this. Unfortunately, few of us have dedicated listening rooms where we can position our speakers exactly where we like them to be & also treat the room w/ in various ways. The speaker width apart & subsequent toe in can greatly affect upper midrange & high frequency harshness or hardness depending upon speaker & driver design. 
 

Funny story: I was in high school in 1974 & bought w/ my hard earned $, my first hifi w/ original Large Advents  Pioneer 939 receiver (70 watts / side - lot back then!, BIC turntable ( piece of junk w/ good design & terrible build quality). I set it up in my bedroom first w/ the speakers horizontally on reinforced wall shelves & wasn’t happen w/ the sound. It was uneven & a harsh .I had heard them sounding much better in a very nice stereo store. I then got cinder blocks, put the speakers vertically on them about a foot off the floor. My best friend family owned a good carpet store & he brought me about 20 large carpet samples ( about 2’x3’ & Karastan thick wool!)  & screwed them into the walls & ceiling here & there. Voila! Magic! I then bought a second pair of Advents & stacked them! Obviously, my house was the place to get high & listen  to music for all my friends. I’m not sure if my Mom ever came upstairs into my room throughout high school fortunately! 

Some times you have to think "inside of the box."

You never mentioned on what format you listen to this.  When I ordered the CD, I noticed that the cut in question is the first cut on the CD.

If you are listening to the CD and you turn on your system and put this on, the system has not had enough time to warm up and all kinds of nasties are possible.  If this is the case, go back and relisten to the track after playing the remainder of the CD.  Has this helped?

I am of the opinion the first song on any media, from a cold start, is a washout and things get better over the next few tracks.  My system doesn’t really get good (e.g., reduced glare, enhanced imaging) until at least 20 minutes or more of play.

Some times you have to think "inside of the box."

You never mentioned on what format you listen to this. 

Yes I did.  Read my opening post...I stream with Tidal.

OK, thanks...,

But the premiss still stands..., had you allowed enough time for your equipment to fully come up to temperature?