Claude’s amp upgrade recommdation


On a whim I asked Claude what it thought the weak link is in my system (see my Agon profile).  It said my Peachtree Gan1 power dac was the limiting factor.  I gave it a $4000 replacement budget and it recommended a Luxman M-700u.  Great amp, but the only one available used is here on Agon for $7700.  I reduced the budget to $3000 and Claude said a Cary CAD 120SE.  There is one on Agon for $3800 and one on USAudio for $3250.  As a second choice, Claude recommended a Rotel Michi M8 for some reason. The cheapest used one is at TMR for 9499!  As a third choice, though, was an Emotiva XPA-2.  TMR has one for $1199.

i had been thinking of maybe class D monoblocks, but Claude said they would be a poor.match with my Stirling LS3/6 speakers.  Quite a range of suggestions.  Would the Emotiva be an upgrade on my Ric Schultz modded Gan1?  Is the Cary the best choice if the Luxman is above my budget?  What do you think?  Thanks.

treepmeyer

@kennyc you wrote: 

"So the OP is asking us to evaluate their AI recommendations?

At best there may be some suggestions that personally resonates with the OP. Beyond that asking others to guess what the OP would personally subjectively like seems like a waste of time as only the OP knows their own preferences."

Lets take AI out of this for a moment.  What if I posted that I went to my local high-end dealer and asked him what my weak link is and what he recommended to address whatever this weak link is?  How is that different?  Would you still say that asking Agon members what they think of the dealer's recommendations is a waste of time - because only I know my preferences?

What you are suggesting, I think, is that our audio experiences are profoundly subjective, implying that no one else can know how I experience sound and that it is impossible to communicate about that experience in a meaningful way using words.  There is only our "subjective reality."  The origin of that kind of solipsism is David Hume.  He might have said that we think we convey experiences using words and that others will know what experiences we are referring to when we use descriptive terms like "dynamic" for instance - but in reality there is no justification for such leaps of reason.  We have only our personal experience.  I respect that skepticism, but if that is even close to your position one has to ask why are you on Audiogon?  After all, a large part of what we do here is attempt to communicate audio experiences via words.

For my own part, I think that there is a big problem using words to discuss audio experiences and that we can never do so exactly.  But I do believe that we convey some shareable meaning when we use terms like timbre, bright, etc.  It is useful and helpful to try to do so.

Back to AI.  My view is that AI has some useful features for our hobby.  First, it is reasonable to assume that the knowledge base it uses for an audio-oriented question is encyclopedic.  Per the above discussion, the knowledge base is only comprised of words (images are irrelevant).  Its knowledge base excludes audio experience.  Nonetheless it has access to essentially everything published on the matter.  Second, it is safe to assume that the language model uses robust logic to make inferences.  Even if it isn't shared with the user, the inferences have behind them an explicit logic chain.  It will never say something like, "I just like this better" without a reason.

Now, we probably all know humans with encyclopedic knowledge of audio stuff, lots of experience and a sound head on their shoulders.  There are plenty of such people here on Audiogon.  Do they all agree?  Certainly not.  Do we accept their judgment uncritically?  Not likely.  But are their opinions useful?  You bet.  Why would a human creation like ChatGPT, Claude or Gemini be any different?  I don't think it is.  They have their place.

Just my 2 cents.  Thanks everyone.

 

 

OMG:

Grizzly possibly siding with me?

What have I done - what have I done?

Luv you Grizzly.

 

DeKay

I would NOT do Emotiva.  It may give u an upgrade in sound vs a Class D but it will not sound as good as other class AB amps.  I agree that you should move to an AB Amp for better sound with your speakers.  I can get behind the Odyssey recommendation.  There is an Atoll EVO200 for sale brand new at reduced price on audiogon right now.  I would buy that.  You can buy a dac board if you want an internal DAC..  otherwise there is a new dac100 available on US.  I bought their SDA200 all in one for my work office set-up but currently have it hooked up to my main system at home and it is very, very good.  Natural sounding.  Much, much better than Emotiva and Van Alstine amps which I had previously.

@mike4597 The Odyssey Kismet looks very interesting, good reviews and amazing value.  Thanks for pointing that one out.

@greenngoldcheesehead If I replace my Gan1 I will use the dac in the RME Fireface interconnect.  Thanks for the lead on the Atoll EVO200.

1. Replace the Dual 1228 with a modern table in the $1,500–$2,500 range. The defensible choices, all measurably better in wow/flutter, rumble, and arm geometry:
        •       Rega Planar 6 with Ania MC (~$2,500 total): light/rigid plinth philosophy, RB330 arm, excellent value.
        •       Technics SL-1200G (~$4,300): if budget allows, the gold standard in measured speed stability for the price tier; coreless direct drive.
        •       Pro-Ject X8 / X2B with an Ortofon Quintet Black S (~$2,500): mass-loaded design, well-engineered Pro-Ject 9cc arm.

The Dual arm is more adjustable than the Rega, but not as much as the Technics, which has a better arm overall. This was an excellent example of AI spewing nonsense... IMO the Rega is not in the same league with Technics.