Does anyone have a digital system that is as involving as their analogue front end?


I have a good analogue front end. Not stratuspherically good but good enough for this comparison. VPI Prime Signature 21 turntable, Pass Labs XP-25 pono preamp, Pass Labs XP-30 preamp and Hovland Radia amp. It has a lovely, very involving sound. On the right recording, I just drop everythng and am drawn in to listen.

My streamer, on the other hand, is decent but not spectacular. It is better than my CD player, but it is not jaw-dropping like my analogue front-end. My question is this: does anyone have a high-end, tier-one streamer (dCS Bartok Apex, Lumin X2, or something like them) that can rival a good analogue system?

audio-b-dog

Thank you all for the input. I think the answer is that I can find a digital system that is as engaging as my analogue which cost about $25K (turntable, cartridge, phono preamp), but I will have to spend $10K plus, even purchasing something used. So, I'll have to think about that and soften up my wife. It might take a long while to hatch that egg.

@ghdprentice 

I had to smile when you said I should look into an Audio Research Reference preamp. That's exactly what I had when I picked up the Pass Labs XP-25 three-box preamp. I'm getting a bit older and squeezing into a twenty-inch space to squat and change tubes is just too difficult. So, I replaced it with the top of the Pass Labs line, which I picked up used for about 1/3 price. I think most people don't have the room for three boxes.

Quite honestly, they sound almost similar. Audio Research has tightened up their sound so they don't have much bloom, and Pass Labs rolls off the treble just a bit and sounds tubular. I don't miss the Audio Research Ref. 3. I also replaced an Audio Research PH-7 phono preamp with a similar pass labs phono stage, and again, almost the same. The Pass Labs high-end stuff is good solid state for people who like tubes.

If you look into the way back machine at my Hovland Radia, it also has a tube-like character. I run all this into Sonus Faber Olympica Nova V speakers, and I'm very, very happy with everything but streaming. And someday, I am sure I will upgrade.

 

 

I stopped using a turn-table about over 25 years ago, and thoroughly enjoyed CD up until about 5 years ago, when I transitioned to a very high-end streaming only audio system, and I've never been happier.  Through my current streaming only audio rig, streamed music is just as involving to me as CD, reel-to-reel, cassette and vinyl ever was.  Happy listening.       

I love vinyl and love cds....I have never streamed music.I listen to FM stations and you tube .I have lots of vintage equipment. When cds came out I hated them...I had over 1,100 albums and played them..alot.But I also like cassettes and there are some fantastic sounding ,and well recorded music on them.I also have a few Reel  to Reels.I remember my uncle recording American Band stand back in the late 50s.I enjoy music...analog or digital.

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@audio-b-dog yes, I think you are right that, not surprisingly, if you want digital playback that is as engaging as your $25k investment in analog you will need to substantially upgrade your streamer/DAC.  And when you are ready to upgrade, my recommendation is that you look into R2R DACs, whether cheaper ones like Holo Cyan2, Denafrips or Gustard;  or even better, mid-priced ones like the LTA Aero. There was a recent thread on here with a bunch of good suggestions under $5k.   (And maybe give  @mitch2 ‘s 6 DAC comparison thread on here for some additional info and other great ideas, albeit at higher price points.  I’m currently trying out the new Mystique  Z quantum DAC from mojo audio and it is excellent and has the convenience of no tubes.)

I’ve found that Delta sigma DACs with ESS chips like the one in your Moon have a hard time sounding as musical as even moderately priced R2Rs. The streamer is important too, as you started your thread with, and if you want a streamer/DaC in one box , @audphile1 has given you his very well considered recommendation.  If you’re looking for separates, to allow for flexibility in upgrades, the Aurender N200 is a very fine place to start.  (If you find a deal on a used one, maybe even consider the N20.) I don’t see a used N20 or N200 at TMR at the moment, but they frequently have them and they offer a 30-day trial with a small restocking fee.  So that is one less risky way to test the equipment out in your room with your preamp and amp.