@lewm Responding to your suggestion: I’ve swapped cartridges several times while performing the modifications I mentioned above. I can’t remember having a problem with the Stanton cartridge in the turntable with the balanced interconnects. But I’ll verify that is the case. It would certainly be valuable information. Thank you for helping me think the matter through.
Turntable Right Channel Dropping Out; Grounding Cartridge Body Brings It Back
I’m running an old Numark Pro-TT1 DJ-Style turntable which I have modified in the following ways:
(1) Added a switch to toggle between Signal and Chassis Ground (to solve a Ground Loop issue with another cartridge)
(2) Falling Weight type of Anti-Skate
(3) Balanced Tonearm XLR Cable made for me by a company in England (I think it was Iota)
(4) Added a new ‘The Vessel’ cartridge with an elliptical stylus on an aluminum cantilever.
(5) Replaced the original tonearm wires with Cardas clear tonearm wires,
I’m currently using an ELAC Alchemy phono stage that has balanced inputs; but I’m going out from it on unbalanced RCA cables to my McIntosh C100 preamp. The input on the McIntosh preamp can be configured as either a Moving Magnet phono input or an Auxiliary input; I’m using it as an AUX input. The C200 passes the signal to two MC252 stereo power amps. Each power amp is bridged to mono so that they operate as monaural amplifiers.
There are pictures and descriptions in my profile.
Currently, there is a ‘breakout box’ of sorts installed on the unbalanced line for the purpose of taking voltage readings and oscilloscope traces while using my Analog Production’s Ultimate Test Record to dial in my new cartridge.
What’s driving me nuts is that while I’m listening to music, I suddenly realize I’m not hearing anything from my right channel. I can see the needles moving on the ‘big, beautiful blue’ gauges on the MC252, but the voltage on the multimeter (if connected) is way down, and there is no trace on my old analog Tektronic oscilloscope. Eventually, the signal on all indicators fades to zero confirming what I’m already (not) hearing.
But, if I touch my stylus brush to either side of the cartridge body that is metal, I hear a brief, fairly loud, hum from the right speaker. After that the system works fine again. Sometimes the problem comes back on the next side, but after a few cycles of this ‘hum draining’ exercise, the system is good to go for as long as I care to listen, two or three hours, usually.
I can touch the metal cartridge with my finger, but that doesn’t generate the hum or bring my system back. It’s only when I touch, or when my stylus brush touches, both the cartridge and the headshell that the hum is generated and the system’s function is restored.
Does anyone know, or have an idea, of what is going on here? I have another identical Numark turntable that still has its original unbalanced RCA cabling, and to which I have performed the same modifications (except the grounding switch), it has none of these problems. Am I forced to revert from a balanced to an unbalanced interconnect? Why? What is going on? Anyone know?
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@elliottbnewcombjr The second one looks quite useful; I’m not sure about the one from Star Wars. Amazon links have led me to make several purchases in the past, but they haven’t always panned out, especially when the price looks too god to be true. 🙂🙂 |
A long time ago I gave myself a birthday present, a very nice magnifying light for my workbench, this sort of thing, mine’s a bit bigger, sturdier perhaps.
Having that, I don’t need a light on the soldering gizmo. It helps when working on anything, especially the innards of my Reel to Reel players. Prices are ridiculously low, you can try, if it's cheap crap, return it. |
@lewm Well, it’s not the cartridge! The Stanton cart on the turntable with balanced interconnects failed on the LEFT channel, just like The Vessel cart failed on the Right channel. This may well be due to different pinouts on the cartridges themselves. The headshell is wired for right channel on the right side, looking at the front of the cartridge; while the left channel is wired on the left side. For the headshell, the positive connectors for each channel is mounted on top; the negative is on the bottom. The pattern on The Vessel cartridge connects the pins on the left side of the headshell to the right side of the cartridge, and swaps the positive connections from top of the headshell to bottom of the cartridge. As far as failure symptoms: I believe I was able to play both sides of one stereo record flawlessly, but I started losing the left channel on the first side of the second stereo record. It started failing about every other track after that. Tapping on the tonearm did not bring it back; only if I disconnected the headshell was the tapping effective. I discovered the cable’s ground wire detached, and reattached it to first the chassis ground, and then to the signal ground. I tried my switch in both positions, but the issue did not go away. I left the wire on the signal terminal and set the switch also to signal. With the wire in my hand, but unattached, there was a loud 60( or 120 cycle hum at the speakers. The pinout of the cartridge shouldn’t matter if the signal wires are connected correctly at the headshell, should they? I’ll verify the headshell connections tomorrow; it wouldn’t be the first time I wired something up backwards. (Burned up a perfectly good floppy drive once by failing to turn the Molex connector right side up.) |
I verified that the wire colors are correct on both sides of the bayonet connectors at the cartridge end of the tonearm. As stated above, the failure symptoms are an intermittent loss of volume on one channel or another when playing in stereo; both channels appear affected when phono stage is set to ‘mono’. Actually, the sound fails in both channels; it’s just that one channel, or the other, completely fades out first—depending on which cartridge is being employed. (The right channel drops out on The Vessel cartridge; the left channel drops out on the Stanton 500 cartridge.) I still don’t know what’s going on, it acts, to me at least, as though a capacitor somewhere in the circuit is failing; that it slowly turns from a component capable of passing an AC signal to a resistor than attenuates it to the point of extinction. And again, it is as if the stylus brush trick ‘drains the charge’ so-to-speak, allowing the capacitor to function again briefly. This is all a fanciful conjecture, of course, it’s just my way of making sense of the symptoms. There are a few more things I’m going to try: (1) Open up the offending turntable to examine all connections at the bearing end of the tonearm all the way to the interconnects themselves. (2) Take at least one, if not both, of the subwoofers connected to the line stage out of the circuit in case there is a ground loop developing. I’m pretty sure one of them is NOT plugged in to the same outlet, although I think everything is on the same circuit. (This topic came up on a recent, similar thread.) (3) If all these measures fail to isolate or resolve the issue, I’m going to swap out the amp and line stage with my tube gear. (I have to do this anyway since the tube preamp recently failed, and I need to remove it from the system for service in any case.) (4) Unfortunately, I can’t swap out a prime candidate for electronic failure: the ELAC phono stage, because I don’t have another one which accepts balanced connections. So, as a last resort, I shall re-install the unbalanced RCA interconnects. The unbalanced interconnects will allow me to remove the current phono stage entirely, if necessary, and go directly into the McIntosh C100 line stage. i’ll get back with results when I have them. |
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