Upgrade from B&W 802D1 to Focal Utopia Scala Evo


If you had the chance to upgrade from  the B&W 802D1 to the  FOCAL UTOPIA SCALA EVO, which would you choose and why? 

onehorsepony

@ronboco 

Wait. Are these brand new speakers ? If so you will need several months for proper break in! My Rockports sounded terrible too in the beginning. Four months later amazing!! Patience grasshopper.

Bingo! I had the same thoughts. I feel the OP is making a hasty decision. 

@onehorsepony 

Delivered last Friday, sound NO WHERE near as good as my B&W 802D1 speakers.

What does that even mean? You have not specified "which" aspect of the Focal you are referring to? How many hours on the speakers?

"Break-in" is a real thing when it comes to such high-end speakers. Give them some time, adjust their positions. There are other forums you can read, where people have been thrilled with these speakers.Your electronics also seems to be fine. So, all I can think of what might be missing is - patience.

Sorry to hear you don’t link the focals. I have a good bit of experience with both brands and they sound pretty different from each other. 
 

Ferrofluid does dry out and affect the sound in almost all speakers. It is a magnetic fluid (magnetite/oil) used for cooling. It could be cleaned out and replaced with the right tools/knowledge). I have a very old pair of thiels I kept around that have a similar issue. 
 

IMO the B&W has amazing soundstage…. Maybe the best for me. The scoop around 300hz combined with the peak at 5k is not for everyone. The uneven dispersion makes them a bit tricky. But as a whole they have a special sound. 
 

the focal will sound more integrated and have a smoother hand off from mid bass to mids but will never soundstage like the B&W. I alway feel like the B&W 802 has better bass but it is so room dependent I am hesitant to comment on it. 
 

many years ago everyone online said the Wilson Audio Sophia 3 simply outclassed the 802D2. I demoed them independently (also the focal 1037be, Revel Salon). After demoing in isolation I too thought the Wilson was better than the 802D…. I went back for a last demo and the dealer put them in the spot (moving one pair out and the other in. Same front end (top of the line stuff)…. I was dumbfounded to pick the 802D2 as the winner. It hit harder with more detail and the soundstage was unreal. I broke my shoulder skiing that week and never ended up buying either…

 

Now I use a pair of JBL 4367 and I think it is my “final” speaker lol…. But if I ever find a pair of 801D4s used and I have the cash I will buy them just as a novelty as they are very different from the JBLs. 

@onehorsepony I sent you a DM a couple of days ago about my upcoming plans to sell my B&W 802D1 speakers. I offered you first dibs before I listed them in case that might be of interest to you. However I have not received any response from you regarding your interest either way. Your response would be greatly appreciated.

@james633 

Ferrofluid does dry out and affect the sound in almost all speakers.

I don't think the diamond dome tweeters use ferrofluid for cooling. Supposedly the diamond dome is rigid and efficient at dissipating heat that they eliminated the need for ferrofluid.