Cable Wars - ASR Review of Kimber KS 1036 Silver RCA Cable ($4500 pair)

@jallan 's post in page 1 is really spot-on.

"ASR measures what’s easy to measure, not what matters. "

As I repeatedly said, sometimes to understand a topic, one has to step back and look at the bigger picture. 

Are people in forums like ASR and AVSforum hellbent on the idea that all cables are the same? Yes they are.

So are all cables the same? No. In fact, in the same voice and tone, these people have also adamantly stated all dacs are the same. All amplifiers are the same. If anything measures better, it's always "beyond hearing threshold".

Dylan (owner of Buckeye) had also said all "properly designed" amplifiers all sound the same. A ridiculous thing to say. 

When asked what's the difference between his $1,000 Hypex amplifier vs a $17,000 Mola Mola Kaluga (since both are made by Bruno) he repeatedly dodged the question.

So what's my point? My point is these debates about cables are invalid because the opponents are invalid.

Flat-earthers say the Earth is flat, you respond with "WTF". Flat-earthers say a soccer ball is flat, and now you go "now I understand".

 Aplogise in advance, I'm not good with words.

@samureyex wrote: 

I’m not good with words.

Oh, come on! Don’t sell yourself short. You’re not that bad 🙂

Buckeye Audio’s designer’s unique talent consists of having opened commercial accounts with Hypex and Purifi or whatever, and integrated (packaged) their modules into inexpensive Chinese enclosures with custom-printed faceplates. Same with Nord, that schmo in Slovakia (or Bulgaria?) whose name I forget, and countless others.

These amps aren’t bad because the modules in them aren’t bad.

But only a cretin would say that all "properly designed" amplifiers sound the same, especially when they’ve never designed an amplifier ever. 

I go to ASR occasionally for a good laugh. 
According to them, everything measures the same so it should sound the same.

They never bother with actually listening. Why should they?

Music is about measurements, not what we hear.

@samureyex Dylan (owner of Buckeye) had also said all "properly designed" amplifiers all sound the same. A ridiculous thing to say.   When asked what’s the difference between his $1,000 Hypex amplifier vs a $17,000 Mola Mola Kaluga (since both are made by Bruno) he repeatedly dodged the question.

When I asked Odyssey’s Amp Designer Klaus vs my Constellation amp, he freely admitted the Constellation was superior.

Frankly, it seems very strange to assume amps sound the same when simply moving up a brand’s product line like Constellation, Soulution, Audionet, Boulder, etc one can clearly hear sonic improvements…for a price. 

@devinplombier Thanks for the boost of morale.

@kennyc If we all had sufficient hearing, there wouldn't be such a debate to begin with. Some of you might be familiar with Erin (Erin Audio Corner). He "reviews" a lot of stuffs. Measures a whole bunch of stuffs too. A respected member of ASR and AVS. He had openly admitted in his Youtube videos that he cannot tell the difference from one amp to another. One time he compared a tube vs a SS amplifier and the two sounded identical to him except for a bump in the bass on the tube amp.

Here's the crazy part. Most amps I've heard sounded different when freshly turned on vs being on for 90 mins. The same amp sounds different depending on warm-up time. Let that sink in....