@billpete : Is the worst of the 3 LOMC Talisman. The Talisman cartridge motor is something very special and unique. My Talisman comes with the aluminum/magnesium catilever and Shibata III stylus tip, yes second hand. Has an advantage over the others and is that has lower output level that means les coil wire over the signal was developed.
Regarding the Grace Ruby the difference with the F9 is not only the ruby cantilever but in reality Grace modified the cartridge motor in favor of the Ruby with lowe output level than the 9 and this is why is superior.
My first Ruby cantilever cartridge was the Dyna 23 and then the Benz Ruby and Supex and was Sounssmith who puts as a fashion Ruby in his designs but nothing more than that.
Jonathan Carr ( Lyra designer ) never used ( if I remember ) ruby cantilevers or any other today top quality cartridges.
Boron is way superior as are different cantilever blend materials over the ruby that's not big deal.
@neonknight yes that Kiseki is truly good but you need to listen other better LOMC vintage cartridges like the ones coming from Satin, Empire and several others.
R.