Rainy Day Musings


It is a dark and rainy afternoon in N. California. Satiated with tunes, Snoopy's mind wanders........to distortion in preamps. 

I have recently transitioned to tube phono and preamps. I had used a ML #38s for several decades and some solid state phono preamps. I was quite pleasantly overcome with how lively, detailed, warm, human the sound coming from my speakers have become with tube gear

The reason? I don't know. I've thought a quite bit about this, but have no conclusions to offer. However, I do have some ideas about what doesn't appear to be as big a problem as some would opine.

I have become quite facile in using REW to measure the sonic behavior of my system.  REW can also used to measure purely electrical signals from any component.

Aside: it is my impression that the particular "sound" of an instrument is due to the spectrum of its overtones (not distortion, but modes of the instrument). If each instrument could only create a single frequency, then one could not tell the difference between instruments. I assume that electric guitars also mimic the overtones (and are sometimes deliberately driven into massive distortion).

Electronic components are designed expressly to not exhibit modal behavior. When excited by a single frequency, components are designed to reproduce that frequency and only that frequency (within stated limits). 

When an electronic component creates other frequencies (almost always higher multiples of the exciting frequency), those other frequencies are called distortion. This clearly is a simplification as sum and difference frequencies can also be excited).

These distortions occur at the same frequencies as the overtones in the musical instrument (or artificially (digital or analog) created instrument for that matter). These overtones are present in the musical signal throughout the audio system.

My conundrum is that although one wants lots of the former (overtones) and none of the latter (distortion) and they occur at the same frequencies, how can one distinguish one from the other? Do overtones swamp the distortion that exists or are the distortions so high that they dominate? I really don't know since I am not familiar with the detailed characteristics of musical instruments.

My phono circuit is all tubes (phono and preamp). I routinely measure less than 0.01% from those components (Paragon "E" (phono), ARC SP-6B (phono) and BAT VK-33SE preamp). The ARC SP-6B even has an adjustment to make the distortion in the phono section smaller (I have seen 0.0001% distortion during my adjustments). This distortion value is not as low as that achieved with well designed solid state equipment. However, this difference is inaudible to me. Far greater is the noise and distortion from the vinyl pressings themselves and the rising noise from 1KHz down to 20Hz one sees due to the application of the RIAA curve in the circuit. Noise is also not a problem for listening to my system. I only begin to hear noise in a speaker when I am less than 6" away when the gain set at normal listening level.

From this I must conclude that tube preamps designed to have low distortion (less than 0.1% or ???) are indistinguishable from solid state components in this category. Tube preamps have drawbacks. They run hot, are not energy efficient, need care and replacement for tubes that wear out, and need 10s of minutes to achieve stability. These seem to be better criteria for tube/solid state decisions, not distortion.

Power amps are a different. I don't fully understand what's going on, but I can see where there may be significant challenges, especially matching to a speaker. Seems to me that this is one aspect where solid state has an definite advantage. I use an ML No. 27 power amp.

I really would appreciate comments, especially critical ones. Tell me what I'm missing.

 

kevemaher

The music elections have lots of space to move in the warm glass tubes rather than being squished into those tiny layered substrates.

@hilde45 

Yes, I've carefully matched components with respect to impedances so that there's little to no reflection back and maximal signal transfer. I went through this exercise when I decided to recap the output caps on my tube preamps. Eventually, I examined every component. For the cap replacement, the issue was low frequency attenuation caused by the filter created by the output cap and the power amp's input impedance, a classic high pass filter.

@larsman 

Our local mom and pop internet service was out until this AM because of the electrical storm. They had to replace over $20K of equipment. They couldn't get there at first because of road damage. I've also just found out that the storm also wrecked my router and the DVR. So no WiFi to send my comments here until now

Bad Storm!

Heat. My VK-33SE preamp is on the second shelf, just below the TT. The VK is comfortably warm to the touch, but not nearly as cool as ss gear. Every pre that I've had there puts out about the same amount of heat. You might wonder what this does to the TT performance. I've mitigated that by putting a dual layer of glass shelving between the VK and the TT. Temp at the table is within a few degrees of room temperature. Glass is a great absorber of IR (heat).

I've had tube power amps. Yeah, they do run much hotter.

On warm-up, I've monitored the tube voltage in real time from turn-on to stability for a few preamps. At first there are wild swings, even overvoltage. After about 2 minutes, most of the variation in voltage has subsided, but small changes do occur afterward. Pick your warm-up time according to your taste, everybody's different. But wait at least 2 minutes before sending power to the speakers.

@dogberry 

My point is that most well-designed vacuum tube phono and preamps do not have distortion. in fact, the THD for my SP-6B is less than 0.001%. Similar for the Paragon "E". 

Implied in that statement is my observation that tube preamps do not have to have audible distortion products. Some do, I'll admit. But that's done to deliberately color the sound.

Yet, tube equipment does sound different from ss. I wonder if it has to do with subtle interactions of the preamp impedance with those of the downstream components impedance.

@lewm 

I will confirm that the SP-6B has a bias pots. There's one for each channel in the phono section (V1, V2, V3) and one for each channel for the line level section (V4, V5, V6). That's four pots to twiddle.

I observe the changes in a real time spectrum as I turn a pot. This allows me to minimize distortion. The pots alter the V2 and V5 bias voltage. Every time a tube is changed, I go through this exercise. I also monitor it as the tube ages. 

With a new tube in the circuit, performance is usually acceptable without any tweaking. However, the pots allow one to drive the distortion into the noise floor.

I've not seen any other preamp that has this provision. The SP-6B is from about 1980. Even then, AR was striving for accurate and not deliberately colored performance. I've not measured the CJ or other deliberately colored preamp (my understanding, not confirmed by the manufacturer).