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Should Room Acoustics be an Audiogon ‘topic’?
The available topics on Audiogon do not include Room Acoustics. This area is as important as any other, and has a far greater impact on what we hear than amps, preamps, and cables put together, IMO. Does anyone know how to lobby to include it? Do I need to start a petition? ; )
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@tcutter I apologize if I gave the impression that I am some kind of an acoustics expert. I am not. What I am is a person who has experience and a lot of it bad with supposed "experts" in the field. A lot of things can go wrong and do. Be careful. Your idea to verify is not practical because every room is unique. |
There is no easy recipe in acoustics. Then acoustics is complicated matter. This is the bad news... The good news: as an audiophile my goal was not perfection in my dedicated room but an optimization with a set of experiments to train my listening and Ears/brain into recognizing main acoustics concepts with my ears not with a measuring dial.
The result at no cost was stunning : Almost surround sound with spatial cues so good no headphone (even my beloved K340) can do it...
Acoustics is difficult as a study matter... But it become way easier if you use your ears to navigate the waves when experimenting learning how to recognize an acoustic concept with your ears ( my favorite one : ASW /LV ratio)...It was costly in time sorry... Most people cannot do this before retirement ... |
@billstevenson — Your first post argued acoustics is too technical for this forum. But "too technical" only holds if a subject admits of no gradations — if one is either a full expert or has nothing useful to contribute. Does acoustics really work that way? This is clearly false. "Nutrition" is a genuinely complex science, yet people become meaningfully healthier by learning something about fat, sugar, and salt. No biochemistry degree required. Would you suggest they don’t discuss it? The same is true here: understanding first reflection points, bass trapping, and RT60 doesn’t require an acoustics degree. And it’s worth noting that cables, amplifier topology, and cartridge loading are no less technical — yet they have their own parent categories without apparent concern. A dedicated forum topic is precisely where inflated claims get challenged and it draws those with good information (and maybe expertise) more easily to a subject that is currently discussed randomly in other places. A focused topic helps with this. On harm: the misinformation you worry about cuts both ways. Audiophiles spending heavily on gear while an untreated 15dB mode at 50Hz undermines everything they’re hearing are not in a neutral position — they are actively and expensively underserved. A forum topic focused on acoustics is one of the better mechanisms for preventing exactly the kind of harm you’re concerned about. Overall, on this topic, I see no good reasons against having an Audiogon forum topic on, say, "Room Acoustics and Treatments." It would
It would be easier to argue against a free lunch than argue any more about this topic. |
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