To all Klipsch Heritage fans


Likely going to purchase Klipsch Forte IV. Would opt for Cornwall IV but space may or may not be a factor. If not, then it’s the Corns.

Two part question: if I have to opt for the Forte IV I’ll be happy. Question is: how many folks out there find placing these 1’ or less from the front wall satisfying? I’ve seen a ton of YouTube videos and most people claim they had to pull them out a good 3-4 ft out; however, the majority of those reviewers had bare wood floors, no wonder, the bass must have very boomy. I have thick carpet so I know it will tame it down significantly. I prefer to set them up along the long wall so I have little wiggle room to pull them out; on the other hand, placing them along the short wall will give me 3-4 ft of play from the rear wall.

Question two; The Cornwall IV. I can get these only if I opt for my system and tv along the short wall. What say anyone regarding Klipsch Cornwall vs Crites Speaker CS Style B Cornwalls? I’ve got no problem putting wood veneer on them myself. The Crites crossovers look impressive and higher end than Klipsch (sorry Klipsch, but it does). Thoughts welcome. Cheers and thanks. 

octobertime

As mentioned earleir,  big horns need a active crossover/processor, dsp. It is impossible to design such horn speakers without one. A concentric driver design, tannoys and such can get away without active crossovers/dsp, but, a horn just can’t get there without it for a high fidelity application. I just got my hands on a Accuphase DF65. It is also the dac in the horn chain, i.e., no adc, i come into it digital --> triamp.... Omg... the resolution, detail, clarity, separation...it beat out all the magicos and the cadillac boressens and whatever i heard. 

Such is the possibility with high efficiency horns if executed correctly. On the same note, i use horns designed by TAD. But, Klipsch has some potential. You’d have to add a lot more cabinet bracing to address their lazy cabinet, no-rez, etc. and go into it active with peq. 

The big horn, flea watt tube because the horn was soo sensitive , passive crossover archaic crap comes from a time when these guys just didn’t know any better....Or what a severely gimped horn could do was still good enough, beat out some other crappy speaker designs out there. The pros have always known about this, but, for hifi, it may cost a little more for something like an accuphase processor.

@helomech  wrote

No, amplifier pairing is not remotely the issue. I probably tried at least a dozen amps of all manner of topologies (A/AB, PPtube, D, SETs, separates, integrateds) on my Heresy 3s. Certainly some sounded better than others but none removed the speakers’ inherent weaknesses. I heard the AL6 LaScalas on both some expensive VAC separates and some Rotel Michi. They sounded pretty bad in both scenarios. Even in many YT recordings of these models their faults are glaring.

Anyway, there are wholly better options for less money is my main point, especially if willing to go DIY. 

@helomech might I ask what speakers you listen to in your main rig? I have likely heard them, or another model from the manufacturer. I grew up around live, unamplified music. When you are near a trumpet player, there is a forwardness/sharpness/dynamic that is present. Nothing in home audio can compare (recordings are an immediate bottleneck with this). Also, keep in mind, the differences with each of our hearing/brain breakdown. I have certain "expectations" of a system. My Lascalas meet my wants, needs and desires. I have been modding for many years and I disagree with needing to bi-amp / tri-amp Lascalas / Khorns. BTW the LS is a horn loaded speaker, so no loose foam / material in use.

Sure, you disagree, a.k.a know more about horn designs than the klipsch principal engineer Roy Delgado, ElectroVoices' Mike o neill, the tad guys, the Meyer Sound guys, etc...you know more than all of them, wow

. I have been modding for many years and I disagree with needing to bi-amp / tri-amp Lascalas / Khorns

deep_333, if you comprehend simple language, I stated Lascala and Khorn, as I am familiar with both designs from PWK. As far as claiming to knowing it all, you certainly take the cake in that department. Enjoy! MrD.

Why come on a thread asking for Klipsch Heritage fans to trash the speakers? 

If your hearing is so fine-tuned that you can hear cabinet resonances (isolated from every other mechanism in a room that could create issues) over a YouTube recording, then Klipsch isn't for you. You can create a thread about all of the speakers that you enjoy. 

Like, stop having fun guys, those speakers actually suck. 

Does anyone really think that someone with a pair of Klipsch La Scalas has never heard or owned another pair of "audiophile" speakers? Come on. 

Go ahead and enjoy your Ascend, BMR, or whatever else. Some of us have been there, done that, never found satisfaction, and enjoy the uniqueness of the Heritage line. 

With the exception of physical space requirements, I can't find a single reason to replace my AL5s.