Klipsch Heritage Range


Hej

With Heritage Range I mean specially Heresy IV and Forte IV.

Reviewers often says that they are made for rock. Also Jazz and sing and songwriter songs are mentioned. But never classical music. Why? Are there any lovers of classical music that also loves Klipsch?

Anyone?


simna
Maybe Klipschorn and LaScalas but the lessor models lack a bit of finesse for delicate listening IMHO.
Metal horns used for midrange and treble have been plagued by "ringing" - an obvious coloration. The plastic horns in my Speakerlab 7's are noticeably smoother and more natural sounding!
The two posters above me should hear the latest iteration of the Cornwall and Forte. Minds will be changed.......

Oz


I'm looking forward to reviews of the new Forte IV. The claimed crossover improvements are promising to me.
The new Forte IV for all intents and purposes is just a Mini Cornwall now.
@ozzy62
Meaning that Forte IV is a perfect fit for a lover of classical music?
I e had Heresy’s  and they are quite good and imo the gem of the lower priced Heritage line. They are like mini LaScala’s and with that tilt up fill  the room better IMO then  the other smaller horn speakers in that line gone are the harsh upper end of klipsch past. The new ones are smoother all around and much more detailed. Ive not heard a forte in any version so can not comment there sorry. 
@simna

 I am not saying they are a perfect fit. My comment was directed more at the two members who posted directly above me. I will say that they do justice to all genres of music, at least to my ears.


@ozzy62 

OK. I see. I'm just trying so hard to find a speaker that's easy to drive and works with all music genres I like. From classical, blues, rock, progressive rock and more.
I have a pair of 74 H-1's that were my brothers and rebuilt them with crossovers, and all drivers from Crites speakers. I am very happy with my modest system and these speakers. I listen mostly to jazz of all types, some rock, classical, new age, etc. Awaiting a Decware UFO to test the tube waters....
I have spent a little over a week with the Forte IV and it is quite good.  I don’t listen to classical but they have impressed me with any material I’ve thrown at them.  I don’t think they have the pitch definition of a Cornwall down low but I turned my sub off the first few nights of listening. They sound BIG,  and with great material sound extends well beyond the speaker.  I’m trying not to listen to them too critically because number one they are so fun to listen to and (2) I’m trying to get away from analyzing equipment and enjoying the music.  
I think these speakers will let me do that.   The midrange driver is much improved,  I listened to IIIs and liked them, I would have taken them home if they had them I Cherry. But  I’m glad my timing, and luck allowed me to get a pair of IVs.  
I love the sound of classical (and every other genre I let into my ears) through my well sorted system with Heresy IIIs (and 2 subs)...just great speakers.
Hi Wolf - so did you keep the III over the IV? Did your subs cover enough of the difference between the two? I have a pair of REL T5i - I almost pulled the trigger on your nice set of Cherry IVs, but I just wanted to sell one more thing. Might be able to find a great deal on a III if I keep looking.

@leahy said

" Might be able to find a great deal on a III if I keep looking."

Right here.

https://community.klipsch.com/index.php?/topic/197533-fs-mint-pristine-perfect-custom-cherry-heresy-...

No affiliation.

Bill
Oddiofyl,

Can you give some details between the sound differences on the III and IV?

I did a quick demo with the III with my own music but on a receiver and I was not very impressed but I blame the electronics. 
Bill - thanks for the heads-up!

I had the heresy iv for a few weeks to audition and unfortunately was not happy with them. They are highly rated by the likes of Steve Guttenberg and Andrew Robinson on yt. I'm not saying those guys know what's the "best" but they have raving reviews if you have to time to watch. Personally I found the sound too forward and in your face. They are not a neutral pair. I actually found them very fatiguing which those two reviewers above both said the exact opposite. I found the midrange to be most lacking. I was also very distracted by them being placed floor level so I could not stop feeling like the noise was coming up from the ground rather than straight into my ears. The one big plus is their sensitivity which is just unmatched in the industry. 
JWL - when you had the IVs, what amp were you using, and did they have much time on them prior to your two weeks?
The IV sound more open.  A little less forward.  I think the new mid driver is much better than the III driver , very detailed.   Vocals are much more intelligible.   Tweeter / Mid coherence is improved

I did not spend much time with the III.   They were unavailable so I just left a deposit to secure my trade on the IVs and they called me when they arrived ..... I bought the IV sight unseen.
@jwl244

Strange. 
Which speaker/speakers did you compare with?
Which amp did you use? 
I got the Heresy-IVs back in late November. When I started to go down the path of picking a new speaker, I had another speaker maker point out some of the issues with my room so I planned to treat the room around the same time that I ordered my IVs. The Heresy's came, and I had some of the same experience as @jwl244. 

Then I started to treat the room - I added diffusers on the ceiling spaced out between the speakers and the listening position. I added some diffusers to the front wall. I move the carpet. I replaced some flimsy window coverings with thicker, dual cell blinds. I added some art to the walls. Everything changed. I made a few other, small changes, moving some of my better (more neutral) cables back into the core system. 

Then, I really spent time positioning them. The difference between when I first put them in to now has been remarkable. I liked them at first but felt really unsettled about them. Now, I just really really like them to the point where I forget they are there and just find myself fascinated by the quality of the music. The ceiling diffusers moved the sound stage up, positioning made it wider and more engaging. 

I still have my LS50s - they scratch a different itch. And, like one of the other posters, I ordered a Decware a week or so after the IVs and in a few months will get to play around with that. I find that the IVs have done exceptionally well with the currently playing LTA Z40 (but what wouldn't), the Schiit Ragnarock, and the Rogue Sphinx. The Sphinx and Heresy combo is a little noisy for my taste, though, when nothing is playing. 

Music - a little of everything but not so much classical. Nick Cave's new 'Litanies' is playing in the background as I type this, and it sounds magical. 



Hmm... so maybe it basically a room issue. But still, I have never heard any fan of classical music saying they have a Klipsch speaker from the Heritage range.
@simna and @leahy 
I first tried a combination of the cxn v2 and Cambridge audio cxa81. Then I tried with my naim uniti atom. I eventually wound up keeping a pair of Martin kogan 6xti. Leahy I didn't burn in as you are suggesting. They were new. 
@tjnindc 

was that a rogue sphinx 1 you found noisy? Mine was very noisy and could be readily heard several feet from speakers with 89dB sensitivity.
yes, the sphinx is a great sounding amp on many levels, but there is definitely a bit of noise that comes with it, in my experience. 
Klipsch company is bloated and their product subsequently overpriced.

I have the Crites cornscala and am a very happy customer, and I enjoy classical mostly. The cornscala can be sent to you built for 2/3 rds of the cost of a lowly heresy- completely agree with post from jwl244 above.
Klipsch company is bloated and their product subsequently overpriced.

I have the Crites cornscala and am a very happy customer, and I enjoy classical mostly. The cornscala can be sent to you built for 2/3 rds of the cost of a lowly heresy- completely agree with post from jwl244 above.

I defy you to point to a single offering in the current Heritage line that is overpriced when compared to similar performance from competitive designs.

Just take the current Forte IV and Cornwall IV for example. At 4500.00 and 6000.00 respectively, there are not many that can offer this type of sound quality. And a Bob Crites Cornsacala is not going to give you the level of sound quality that the latest Cornwall offers. Sure it's more, but it's a finished product that need not apologize for any aspect of it's performance.

Buy a Cornscala. Veneer it or finish it in a high quality stain. Replace the crossover, damp the tweeter and mid horn. NOW you have a finished product that unfortunately will still have a distinct cabinet resonance because of the removable rear panel. You will have spent less $$ than a CW IV, but not the same sound quality for sure.

Oz



I have been enjoying the Forte IV for about two weeks and am pretty happy with them.   It is not a marginal improvement,  the new mid driver really is nice.  These speakers sound fantastic with any material.