are NET Switches worth considering?


I have an Innuos Pulsar Streamer that gives me everything I need - incredible detail, imaging and PRAT. I'm wondering if anyone here has experience with NET switches? I'm particularly interested in the Innuos Phoenix NET and I'm wondering if adding this switch is worth the money. So for those of you who have great streamers is a net switch a must?

I should mention that my only source for music is streaming. 

My Innuos Pulsar feeds my Accuphase DC-37 Processor/DAC and my other components include an Accuphase C2300 preamplifier and an Accuphase A-48S Class-A amplifier.

Thanks in advance!

fire_water

I have had good luck modifying my Ethernet chain, this thread got me thinking, my AI discussion below.

Yes, handling a noisy or poorly clocked Ethernet signal requires more processing effort and hardware resources than handling a clean one. This increased workload occurs at both the physical hardware level and the higher software/protocol levels. [1, 2] 

Why Poor Signals Increase Processing

When an Ethernet signal is degraded by noise or timing jitter, the system must engage several "expensive" recovery mechanisms:

  • Complex Signal Recovery: At the physical layer (PHY), the hardware must use more power and complex digital signal processing (DSP) to filter out noise and recover a stable clock from the jittery incoming signal.
  • Error Correction (FEC): High-speed Ethernet often uses Forward Error Correction (FEC). A noisy signal generates more bit errors, forcing the hardware to perform intensive mathematical calculations to detect and correct those errors before they reach the main system.
  • Packet Retransmissions: If noise is severe enough to cause uncorrectable errors, the Ethernet Frame Check Sequence (FCS) will fail, and the packet will be dropped. This triggers TCP retransmissions, which require the main CPU to manage timers, re-buffer data, and process the same information multiple times.
  • Link Renegotiation: Extremely poor signal quality can cause the network adapter to constantly drop and renegotiate the link speed (e.g., dropping from 1Gbps to 100Mbps), which consumes additional management overhead. [3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11] 

Impact on Performance

  • Power Consumption: Circuits consume more power when they have to work harder to stabilize a fluctuating clock source or filter high-frequency noise.
  • CPU Load: While simple noise is often handled by the network card, the resulting packet loss and retransmissions can significantly increase CPU usage at the operating system level.
  • Latency and Jitter: The extra time spent on error correction and waiting for re-sent packets increases network latency and introduces further jitter into the data stream. [2, 4, 7, 10, 12, 13] 

Me again. Maybe a clean signal results in less processing on the network card, and less noise inside the streamer?

According to Antipodes, in documentation related to their latest product release, a high quality switching cannot be done within the high end streamer: It makes sense to me. With digital streaming less is more. 

Streaming to a DAC over Ethernet

Some DACs accept audio over Ethernet, and some users wish to use this approach.
Antipodes DAS have facilitated this in the past giving the server two Ethernet ports: one for the network, and one for the DAC, with the DAC effectively reaching the network through the server.

The Oladra Platform approaches this differently. Instead of the server performing that switching role, the Oladra platform is designed to use a dedicated three-port switch, with the Oladra and the DAC each connected to the switch, and the third port connected to the network.

The reasoning is simple: if Ethernet distribution is required, it is better handled by a high-quality low-noise switch than by the server itself. That keeps the roles clearer, and the solution more purposeful. The switch serves the additional purpose of improving audio performance with streaming services.

Oladra will release an ideal switch for this use. Until then, the same principle applies with a well-designed audiophile switch.

https://camerata.app/outputs

@mclinnguy Thanks for posting that, I have not seen that comment from Antipodes. I am using one of their older CX servers with dual Ethernet ports connected directly to my Bricasti DAC. Maybe I will try a switch in between. 

@fire_water investigate Melco S100 version 2. The  Melco switch is very well engineered from a long lineage of networking experience (Buffalo). Melco approach balances core networking principles with very low noise power supplies, great clocks, and low noise port capped at 100M for streamers. IIRC the Melco filters IP packets not intended for the NIC in the streamer further reducing processing and noise at the NIC level. Melco also has deep packet buffers which can smooth out network transmission. SFP cage for modern streamers with SFP ports as well. Definitely do some of your own research. I think you will find Melco is hard to beat at the price point. 

@fire_water @grannyring 

I caved in and ordered Matrix Audio SI-1 Network Isolator, expected to arrive on Thursday. I’m genuinely curious to hear if SI-1 equals or outperforms my reference Telegartner Optical Bridge 1000M. 

There is also a review by Hans Beekhuyzen, incase anyone interested. 

https://youtu.be/w8tV1a55BBw?si=MJATOnyahQI5ZVyi