Sweet Spot Listening or Space Immersion?


Like many of you I have a dedicated listening room, focused on high quality, two-channel music.  My equipment and room is very much focused on delivering the best SQ to a sweet spot in the middle of my love seat.  It’s truly great!  But it can feel a bit exclusive since it is very difficult for more than two people to enjoy the benefits at the same time.

I also have a whole home audio system, recently implemented, with high quality in-ceiling speakers in several common areas, with a pair of subs in the largest area (living room/kitchen combo).  I also have good outdoor speakers on the system as well.  Because sometimes I just like to be able to wander my home and feel immersed in high quality music.

The new whole home system is built around the new Mcintosh CR106 controller, with a pair of MI128 8-channel amps; KEF CI200QR ceiling speakers, KEF KC62 subs, and KEF Ventura 6s on the patio.  I am streaming from Bluesound Nodes for now (using the CR106 DAC), and I have an MR87 tuner for nostalgia purposes.

Right now I have all the pairs in mono mode and that seems like the right approach to avoid hearing unbalanced stereo sound.  The KEFs have very good off-axis dispersion, which is good because my ceilings are not terribly high.

Anyway, anyone else doing something like this in addition to your dedicated listing room?  Any advice or tips?

mattsca

@mattsca 

I made a Virtual System on this site:

Alternate Toe-In for One or Two Listeners

https://www.audiogon.com/systems/11516

It’s based on the Crossfield Technique used by DBX in my small Home Theater

https://www.hifi-classic.net/review/dbx-soundfield-100-135.html

AI Quickie"

"The dbx Soundfield 100 is a vintage loudspeaker system introduced in 1987 designed to create a realistic stereo illusion across a wide listening area rather than a single "sweet spot." Priced originally at $899 per pair, it utilizes a unique non-parallel cabinet design with five drivers per speaker—including three tweeters and two woofers/midrange units—aimed at different angles to ensure consistent sound quality regardless of the listener’s position."

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Their 10" woofer is enough for my Video with 1 single Sub added for Dinosaur Stomps.

My main system is all front mounted drivers, flat faces, thus I alter the toe-in like DBX's slanted face which is the foundation of their Crossfield Technique.

I like them so much, I just bought a spare set of 3 tweeters on eBay just in case.

 

 

 

Dedicated room with two channel and surround/atmos. Switch in and out of either with a click of a remote. 

This is a great topic- doesn't seem to get much airtime, even though these concerns are so central.

My Quad 57's are incredibly beamy. This is one of the prices I pay for truly wonderful sound at a fraction of the cost of comparable alternatives. I built custom stands to raise them and point them directly at the "head in a vise" sweetspot. When friends sit there, and a great recording's on the turntable they "get it" right away. It makes sense for 50% of my listening time. 

Your idea of installing a high-end environmental system in addition to your sweet-spot system is excellent. I've thought of that, but I like the game of experimenting with vinatage gear too much- I'd have to choose one or the other. So I have a secondary two-channel system for ambient living/dining room social music, a 2-channel system in my studio/workshop that's got good dispersion and sounds very good with a wide range of music, even if it's not really for critical listening it's still pretty satisfying. In my one-season country house I even have a system with a pair of Bose 901's near the wall of a screen porch, which are fun with recordings with a lot of space around the instruments like dub. Talk about an ambient application- I crank these up when no one's around and have a lot of fun getting the outdoor chores done, and their great for parties as well. There's no one way to listen to great music. Having different systems configured for a variety spaces and patterns of use is, for me, the way to go. I find it interesting this approach isn't discussed more here- maybe I'm just my own kind of nut!

I have 4 separate 2 channel systems.  My living room is my "dedicated listening space", and my system is optimized for both 2 channel and home theater.  For 2 channel, it's all about the sweet spot, it's a very immersive experience with a huge soundstage.  It still sounds good off-axis, but not close to what you experience in the sweet spot.