How important is low W & F performance anyway?


I recently completed work on a direct drive motor controller for a turntable mfr with IMHO, rather impressive results (0.004% 2 sigma method, 0.002% RMS).  In measuring other tables actual performance (vs published specs) I was shocked at the rave reviews two tables received that have rather lousy measured performance (but impressive specs).  It made me wonder whether the goal of ultra low W&F performance was really necessary?  I trust the measurements as they were verified by several methods and software tools and they correlated rather closely, yet the reviewers almost universally praise these tables.  It made me wonder if the reviewers even know what they are hearing or listening for and not to put to fine a point on it, does it even matter? 

phoenixengr

Dear @phoenixengr   : " The mfr is an audiophile and musician and he could hear differences that I could not. "

 

I posted that I can’t be aware ( everything the same ) a differences between 0.0018% and 0.003% but in reality I think that no body can do it.

 

I have my own evaluation whole tests proccess and that comparison is out of my mind ¡ ¡ ¡

 

Anyway, as a stand alone spec w&f has no real importance if the " numbers " stay below 0.1% or even 0.2%  In the old time were a specs war, imagine that the S/N of the Pionner/Exclusive TT was 96 db against the 92db in the SP10MK3 or 90db in the Denon DP100 but Kenwood and Yamaha competes too at that very high level and all those motors came with very high torque. Even the SP10MK3 sometimes its motor was used in the recording cutting machine due to its characteristics because Technics had a dedicated SP-01/02 motors for that kind of work.

Latter on came the Rockport with a figure of over 100db: incredible¡ ¡ ¡

 

All tose  vintage TTs gives even today a full enjoyment to its owners as lewm and several others over the audiophile world: just the best machines ever. Not only " numbers " but full overall quality design, excecution of that design and quality performance levels that even today can't be " touched ".

 

R.

@OP Been having some computer problems so sorry for the late reply. Many thanks for your detailed and informative explanation.

@rauliruegas Everything you say reflects my experience too.  Particularly what we can hear and not hear vs. specs.

@phoenixengr 

"I purposely did not list any of that information to prevent undo controversy."

Isn't that what you've created already? From where I sit it compromises your credibility.  When you make these exclamations about a manufacturer's claims I'd rather deal in facts and not nonsense.

 

As I said, the choice is yours.  It hard to imagine how I could possibly care less either way.