"You spent how much on that cartridge?"


Should there be a ratio of the amount of vinyl to the cost of your playback system? A recent thread implied that you should not have a nice rig unless you own a lot of albums. Almost like one does not qualify.

I want to enjoy listening to the relative-to-some few that I own without compromising. I agree that if you have little to no familiarity with the format, you should enter gingerly. But once you've decided you like it, why accept mediocrity?

 

 

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I have read here enough opinions on the Sota Sapphire that contradict my own, to the point where I am willing to believe my Sapphire was defective in some way.  I had a Star Sapphire series III as my only TT for probably the entire duration of the 1990s, or very close to it. While I owned it, I had no complaints, because I had nothing to compare it to.  But when I eventually replaced it with a Nottingham Analog Hyperspace (using the very same Triplanar on both TTs), I immediately noticed increased clarity across the entire frequency range and much better, deeper, cleaner bass response (same cartridge, too).  When I then added a motor controller to the Notts, the performance jumped up yet another notch.  My theory is that either the felt mat or the vacuum hold down on the Sapphire, or both, hindered its performance, with an added possibility that the Sota was unstable in terms of speed.  Before anyone takes too much offense, I do believe the modern Sota TTs are much better.

I went the 2x price method, but opposite what people encouraged here. Benz Micro Zebra cart on a Schiit Sol. Absolutely phenomenal. I did that when at the time I had about 100 albums, only because I knew it was a setup I would enjoy for years as my collection grew. No wrong answers either way you play it, but that was how I did it. yes

I think it’s cartridge/arm fit that is most important. A bad fit can make the best arm or cartridge not sound good. Followed by cartridge quality being of 2nd importance. Then to me it’s phono stage of 3rd importance. Followed by tone arm next. Then turntable. Then isolation. Then cables. I’m sure some have other thoughts but the above is what works for me. 

My theory is that either the felt mat or the vacuum hold down on the Sapphire, or both, hindered its performance, with an added possibility that the Sota was unstable in terms of speed.  Before anyone takes too much offense, I do believe the modern Sota TTs are much better.

@lewm  Oops, that's a caveat I fail to mention - the older series Star platters (III and earlier) feature short & stiff rubber lips that don't make a good seal. Even back in 2007, my III couldn't make proper seal, and despite the vacuum pump working fine, the un-suctioned rubber lip prevented records from making solid platter contact. I'm not sure if this old lip style ever worked very well, but with age they definitely don't. You really have to either tape it down or cut it off. Maybe that was a partial culprit in your case, or maybe not.

Nova Series V and Cosmos IV and newer use much wider and more supple lips that work very well on all but the most warped records - though you do need to clean them regularly. 

Besides my old Star III (upgraded to Nova V) I've added a factory refurbished Cosmos IV+ (adds some of the new tech from Phoenix Engineering) and it's a wonderful table IMO. The older exotic woods were a lot prettier, though :( This one is an orange-ish walnut finish which is truly the ugliest walnut color I've ever seen.

So, you could try Nottingham Analogue Ace Space Deck table with Ace Space arm and motor controller. Add top Ortofon MC, some $3k-$5k tube phono stage, and you will have excellent sound. I would not add optional thick graphite mat - it will make the table less agile,  Spacedeck was not designed with this kind of record mat in mind. But you would need a good mat, not sure which one would work best.

I myself would do it the other way around. Top Nottingham deck with top arm and much less expensive cartridge, would probably begin with Audio Note MM, it is a refined Goldring 1042. Later might upgrade to Ortofon LOMC and better phono stage. And I would most likely never have to upgrade the table and arm. The alternative - Pear Audio next to the top of the line table with arm with the same cartridges and phono stages.