JPlay experts? — Innuos Stream1 is invisible!


I just started exploring JPlay, and it seems quite good sound-wise and in terms of user interface, but although it easily found all of my other streaming devices (Aurender, Gato, BlueSound) on my LAN, it will not recognize my Innuos Stream1 as an audio output. (It does recognize it as a potential library, but as i have no SSD installed on the Stream1, that is not terribly useful or relevant.)  

I have enabled UPnP on the Stream1 via the Sense app and have tried putting the Stream1 in Innuos Standalone, Innuos Endpoint and HQ Player modes, but in none of those will JPlay list the Stream1 as an audio output choice.

Anybody have any idea of what I’m doing wrong?

@marcin_gps I did send a similar question to the JPlay support email the other day.) 

kirkwallace

Hi, Marcin here – creator of JPLAY. I saw your support email as well.

You're not doing anything wrong. The Innuos Stream1 does not support UPnP as a renderer (audio endpoint) – it only functions as a UPnP server. That's why JPLAY lists it as a library but not as an audio output.

This is confirmed by Innuos themselves: https://innuos.com/kb/innuos-upnp-streamers/

The other devices you mentioned (Aurender, Gato, BlueSound) do advertise themselves as UPnP renderers, which is why JPLAY picks them up as audio outputs without any issues.

Unfortunately, this is a limitation on the Innuos side and not something we can work around in the app. You may want to reach out to Innuos and let them know you'd like UPnP renderer support – the more users request it, the more likely they are to consider it.

Marcin

Thank you @marcin_gps .   

@milpai , your AI wins!

When it comes time to upgrade my Stream1 and Phoenix reclocker, I am for sure going to take this into consideration (although maybe #Innuos will have fixed this limitation by then!).

 

 

I’ll ask the dumb question — Sense gets very high marks for sonics and functionality so why use JPLAY at all?  Just curious. 

No great reason, @soix. Just convenience of being able to switch zones from a single user interface. Roon offers the ultimate convenience of being able to have multiple players/zones playing exactly the same tracks at the same time. UPnP can’t do that (as @marcin_gps has explained elsewhere), but at least if i am leaving one room and going to another, i can switch players very easily from within JPLAY, but for the room that has the Stream1 i need to open another app — either Sense or Roon — to get the Stream1 to play.

And oddly, Sense often can’t find my Stream! from my iPad even though on the iPhone there is no problem. 🤷🏻