Tube Preamp with Full Featured Phono (both MM and LOMC with loading options).


My friend has very little room in one of his systems he wants to upgrade, so a single Preamp with Full Featured Phono built in is advantageous to him.

No Tape, Streaming, DAC needed, so not too many inputs, no XLR needed. Has two TT now, with external switcher to his existing Preamp, that's ok, but two Phono Inputs would be advantageous.

I'm gonna start looking, used is fine, budget 1,500 to 2,500 USD (stretch to 2,700 if just a few hundred more gets a great find).

Remote Volume and Mute would be nice, but not that important in that system. Usually, a Remote gets you a newer used item. I'm not living with remote volume, balance, mute. He could find room for the Chase RLC-1 Remote Line Controller he has heard here many times.

That opens the door to Full Featured Vintage Tube Preamps, but that is usually only MM Phono needing an external SUT, costing more, and taking more space. I showed him my FRT-4 SUT which fits under my Turntable, he could do that.

Lots of options, his preference is a single Tube Preamp with Full Featured Phono for both MM and LOMC.

Whew!

Any help will be appreciated, thanks in advance

Elliott

 

elliottbnewcombjr

@lewm ​​​​@elliottbnewcombjr 

I owned RP1 and then upgraded to RP5. My amp at the time was Rogue ST100 stereo tube amp…by the way really amazing amp especially for the money in a used market. 
Speakers were Martin Logan Montis. 
Sources were Auralis Aries G1 streamer, Chord Qutest DAC, Rega P2 with Goldring E3 cartridge. Cables were acoustic zen absolute copper interconnects with Gargantua and Krakatoa power cords. Speaker cables were purist aqueous 25th anniversary. 
It was actually a great sounding system. Easily revealed differences in tubes and cables. I upgraded the cartridge later to Hana EL and the rogue had no issues. 
Yes the sutherland kc vibe mk2 was better and Sutherland 20/20 Mk2 after it took it yet to another level. But there were no issues with performance of RP1 including its in-built phono considering cost. 

Oh and I’ll add - one thing I wasn’t impressed with was the headphones section. Which is a non issue for me. I use headphones that require that type of jack once in a blue moon. I tried it with HD580 it was ok but I just don’t care for headphones so may be don’t even take this into consideration. 
 

Elliot, I only said I would not jump on the Rogue based on the one review that you first quoted, and for the reason given.  If I am interested in an unknown piece of gear and all I have is a review by an unknown reviewer, all I can do after that is to see what system he used to evaluate the piece.  Mr Moon's system is not a knockout, in my opinion, so I would not make a purchasing decision based on what he wrote alone.  If he were otherwise known to me, I might think differently, but he is a total stranger.  Subsequently, you came up with a whole bunch of other citations from more respectable sources and from reviewers with some cache because they work for Stereophile.  In addition, we have the excellent test results from John Atkinson.  That's a whole different kettle of fish.  So yes, the Rogue must be a nice piece.

@lewm 

I know you enough to understand your comments about an unknown reviewer,

however,

I always think about others following discussions, and I didn't think you comment should be the last thing they read about it. 

I was planning similar build until I found a Conrad Johnson CAV50 tube control amp (integrated). Coupled that with a Musical Fidelity V90 LPS phonostage which provided MM/MC option.  I couldn't be happier and while I was purely vinyl I recently ventured into CDs which was a simple addition because of output options of CAV50.  I was totally surprised of the warm sound from CD with he right equipment.