@hilde45 to be clear I never said that GaNFET people were putting out misinformation or disinformation about Purifi. What I did say is that they always compare their superiority to "most" class D amplifiers. Which necessarily does not include the top shelf ones made by Purifi and others. The information is out there. And easy to discover. If you’re really that curious , maybe do some investigation of your own. You’ll probably learn more that way and not have to question others credibility or motives.
Expanding the Class D Conversation: How Would You Characterize Their Differences?
Expanding the Class D Conversation: How Would You Characterize Their Differences?
I'm currently trialing the NAD M23 (1st gen. Eigentakt-based), and I find it intriguing enough to want to understand it better — which means understanding the broader sonic landscape of class D. So I'm crowd-sourcing.
In a recent exchange, the estimable Ralph Karsten (Atma-Sphere Music Systems) made two comments that stopped me cold. For those who missed it, here's what he said:
"IME, class D amps vary in sound more than tube amps, which is to say, quite a lot."
"IMO there is a bigger difference between various class D amps than you hear between various tube amps. IOW just because you heard one class D amp says nothing about how the next one might sound."
Link: https://forum.audiogon.com/posts/2885828
As I think through this more carefully, these are genuinely important claims. My own experience with tube amps confirms that they produce audibly distinct characters across topologies and designs. If Ralph is right and class D exceeds that range, then generalizing from one class D experience to another is even more hazardous than I assumed.
One specific question for Audiogon members:
If you have a Class D amp or have compared class D amplifiers, how would you describe their character(s)?
Here are some criteria I use:
- Frequency balance — Is the tonal response even across bass, mids, and treble, or does it favor certain regions?
- High-frequency texture — Are the highs extended and smooth, or edgy, grainy, and fatiguing?
- Bass definition — Is the low end tight and articulate, or loose and bloated?
- Midrange character — Does the midrange feel present and natural, or recessed and thin?
- Transient speed — Does the amp respond quickly to dynamic attacks, or does it sound sluggish and rounded?
- Dynamic range — Does it scale convincingly from quiet passages to loud ones, or compress the difference?
- Soundstage width and depth — Does it create a convincing three-dimensional image, or sound flat and narrow?
- Image specificity — Are instruments and voices placed precisely, or do they blur and wander?
- Background noise floor — Is the silence between notes actually silent, or is there grain, haze, or hash?
- Long-term listenability — After an extended session, do you want to keep listening, or has something been quietly fatiguing you?
If you can include relevant system context — room, speakers, preamp — please do. Those variables will help me interpret what the amp itself is contributing.
I'm less interested in rankings than in understanding what Ralph mentioned, namely the [vast] range of sonic signatures class D is capable of. Eigentakt, Hypex, Pascal, Purifi, GaN-based, etc. — all fair game.
Price is no constraint here — I'm interested in the full range of what's out there.
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For what it’s worth, I’m enjoying this learning about this topic, including the incidental tangents (i.e., use of AI for audio). @hilde45 - Thanks for keeping it going!
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@parkergetdean - Totally agree. It’s interesting how our interests shift and evolve as we age. At this point in my life, I am fascinated with audio equipment, especially amps, and their ability to connect us to a world of musical experiences. In |
Thanks for the insight. I jumped to Hypex Nilai 500 mono blocks some time ago. I found the resolution and sound staging excellent. What I really like about them is that class A power. It has limitless feeling. The power supply voltage rails show practically no modulation when you are playing music. These are switch mode power supplies rated at 800W peak 600W continuous at +/-70V. The slam they produce is very impressive. They have a very small footprint and are not heavy. Headroom is astonishing with very little distortion. I think top level class D can match and better some of the more esoteric amplifiers. But not all :) |
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