It's pretty apparant that most of the comments are from people that have never heard the 585se or know much about the circuitry, who designed it, and the actual build quality and components. I've owned both. Both are great performing amps, and I currently own the 585se. It's literally your preferance. The 585se was designed by a legend regardless of the history of how ADCOM came about or where it's made now.
Don't believe the hipe

