@mgrif104 -- Get a HummingGuru Nova and you will be amazed how your vinyl sounds. I don't think you will regret it one bit.
Brand new vinyl - what’s acceptable to you?
I just ordered a dozen new albums - this time all 180 g variants. The Norah Jones had a scratch on it coming out of the paper sleeve the first time. (Separate gripe - why do they package ostensibly “audiophile” albums in crappy sleeves which might actually damage a record?). I’ll return the Norah Jones. But, the Miles Davis album has a noisy spot 1/4 the way through the first track. I’ll try cleaning the record but usually don’t have to for a new album. Or should I as a better practice? (This old dog can learn new habits).
Fortunately, the Pat Metheny is dead quiet - thank you ECM! All my ECM vinyl - even from decades ago are quiet. However, my experience is that ECM is very much an outlier: that most labels will come with some noise.
I’m working my way through all the albums but it made me want to poll the group: How much noise do you accept on a new pressing? Do you have a rule of thumb for what to reject?
Thanks,
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@dogberry If you are going to go to a two machine process you might want to consider using your Loricraft after your Degritter. I base this suggestion on the research done by Neil Antinn where he found that there is more dissolved solids left on the cleaned record if it is air dried than if it is vacuum dried. I played around with this when I bought my VPI MW-1 and HumminGuru. I tried a number of regimes, using only distilled water, using surfactant and then a distilled water rinse, etc. In the end I concluded that for new records my best result is US first using surfactant, with vacuum dry. I also tried US w/surfactant, distilled rinse, then vacuum dry and found that as long as the surfactant (I use Tergitol 15-S-9 @ 0.5 ml/L distilled water) final rinse is immediately vacuumed dry that the pure distilled water rinse step is not necessary. The most important thing I found, though, is to do the vacuum dry as a final step and eliminate the air dry altogether. With your equipment you have the advantage to achieve this same superior result. |
With respect to the scratch on the Norah Jones album, when played is the scratch audible? Vinyl inevitably has visible surface features that when played are usually inaudible. Sometimes for one reason or another during pressing, packaging etc., at the pressing plant the surface becomes contaminated with foreign matter that may or may not be audible. The patch of noise you hear a 1/4 way into the first track of your Miles Davis album may be just the case. A close visual inspection under good light, preferably on the turntable noting the position of the tonearm when you heard the noise may only require physically removing the offending foreign matter. I gently use my pinky nail followed with a pass from the edge of my silicon roller to remove leftover debris from the scraping. This often achieves complete silence after such a procedure and such is the nature of vinyl, perfect yet flawed! |
“How much noise do you accept on a new pressing?” Zero noise. As many pointed out, every record I purchase gets treated with UCM bath, fresh MoFi sleeves before it gets played. I am using Degritter MKII with distilled water to clean my records. As far as Norah Jones, not sure which version you purchased…I found AP’s Vinyl version sounds the best!
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@billstevenson My rationale is that by using the Loricraft first, I am removing gross contamination from the record before it goes in the Degritter. It gets vacuum dried by the Loricraft's clever mechanism. Then when it goes in the distilled water in the DG there should be very little for it to remove, and thus very little left to be dried on the surface. I did go as far as taking the wet record from the Degritter back to the Loricraft for a vacuum dry, but there were two problems: I have to place a wet record down on the platter and dry the uppermost surface, then flip it and put the newly dried side onto the wet platter. So I got an extra platter mat. Using this contributed to the second problem: it took too much time to go through the whole process and began to make me want to play CDs and SACDs more. So I struck a happy compromise and I find the results very acceptable. I have had conversations here with Neil. He had me do things like air dry a drop of the used solution on a mirror and look for residue (there was none). |
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