I haven't been this excited in a while!


I have been growing my system for 8 years going through 8 preamps, 6 amps, 5 phonostages, 8 DACs, 8 streamers, 6 turntables and 7 sets of speakers.  Lots of long drives pulling a U-Haul haha.  I live in Memphis and have been to Dallas, Bethesda, DC, Jersey, Charlotte and Asheville.  

My Wilson Sophia 1 have been the speaker that keeps making the most musical sound in my system through all the electronic upgrades.  Other Wilson(Yvette/Sasha DAW/Alexia 1) had an overly bright/harsh sound that I could not enjoy.  EgglestonWorks Viginti and Focal 1038Be did the same.  I often have an experience with gear that doesn't fit the mould of what is expected.  Wilson and dealers all were in disbelief that my inverted metal dome tweeters in the Sophias play smoother than the soft-dome, but it wasn't just me...had a couple local audiophile friends over and I will never forget, one used the expression that they make you want to run out of the room.

A few weeks ago a friend  let me listen to his Harbeth Compact 7ES-2s and I was blown away.  All the assessments and reviews were spot on.  They were so musical and natural sounding.  This medium sized speaker was also super impressive in how the bass filled my large space.  

I started looking for some older model 40s and am going in about a week to pick up my M40.1s.  I was never a huge fan of their aesthetics with the old school box design.  I do love wood however it may be used in a home and with that sound they are looking more and more beautiful to me.  

Sonus Faber have a similar reputation and with their sleeker and more modern design, I had thought they would be my next contender but at the price point and the reviews of these 40.1s, as I said...I am just giddy over getting them home and seeing how they can perform.

I listen to all genres of music and will report back in a couple weeks on how things work out.  I was curious of others that are new to the Harbeth sound.

Cheers,
Dana

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The following is my description given to my local HiFi Group about the early experiences had with the New Speakers.

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Good Evening Group               

I am compelled to share the unavoidable thoughts that are developed, resulting from the most recent experiences with using the New Speakers.

Since they have arrived, I have been working with Placement and a creating a strong sense there is a Coherence of the sound being produced across the frequencies. 

Coherence is easy to become unbalanced when Gain Controls needed to be used can be a two edges sword. As in Photo editing software's, less usage of the editing tools is much much more beneficial when trying to create the attraction of the end photo. 

The smallest of touches to the Gain brings the most from the times a tweak seems to need to be required, keeping on the side of very attractive is the goal.

Small changes to the symmetry of the Speakers are quite capable to change the impact of the sound being released. I would say at this stage I am with gain adjustment and symmetry alignment, approx' 6+/8ths complete with the task. 

It might take a Room Measurement and a final tweak to the Room Treatment or Speakers programming / Xover design to absolutely nail this one???  

I have also found that Building Up the Height of the acoustic control panels in Room Corners has added a betterment to the Structure of the sound released into the room, the Volume certainly was able to be rotated a little more and remain at the newly adjusted level.

Knowing how well my ESL's coupled within the listening space and how the experiencing of these in this space was to the listener a indelible encounter. Lets say the ESL's were quite special. Totally capable of creating an immersive experience, where sound was well structured and the ambience of a performance has been quite a believable happening.

The New Speakers are far further in their being capable of this, to the point, there is something much more immersive. There is an unusual tangible structure to the overall sound produced.

The affect of the tangible structure of sound produced, is where I am sensing the presentation is within a purpose made structure, think Amphitheatre or Arena and Cavea. 

It is like the Sound has tangible structure and is contained within a visualised 3D Sound Space. There is sensed a perimeter structure which I am contained in as a spectator of an event.

This is a Sound Experience very different to what I have come to know as a quality sound experience. 

These are not typical descriptions, but they are shared as the result of something quite special having been experienced.

That something is not a describable quantity, it is needed to be experienced to get the basics of an understanding of which I am poorly describing.

In a lesser version WOW! WOOW! WOOOW! 

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I have had to purchase additional seating for the Audio Room, the queue has increased in number to get in early, gaining entry and be entertained with the New Speakers and some other new items to be used in my system.

 

 

@pindac    I have googled the brand name "New Speakers" and, so far, haven't been able to find any info or a website for this manufacturer. Are you running them with your old equipment or have you paired them with the "New Amps" and "New Preamp/streamer" as well?

I hope you're entertaining yourself with your smug little game.

@dseltz Apologies a Post made earlier should have been addressed to you.

@acresverde The New Speakers are being used at present with my CD Source> Custom Built Valve DAC - Prototype SS Pre (A simplified SS Channel which is belonging to my Custom Multi Valve - SS Pre being built for me) - Custom Built 845 Mono's - New Speakers.

I am yet to have a Vinyl Experience, as I am holding off until my Custom Design / Built SS Phonostage is brought home ( It is now ready for pick up ).  This will then be compared to two Custom Design Valve Phon's through the New Speakers and all available Power Amp's.

I own a 300b Power Amp yet to be heard in use with the Speakers.

I have a loaned Neurochrome Monoblock (Unique Design) SS Power Amp also yet to be heard with the Speakers.

I am also to loan and possibly acquire a SS DAC to enable the Full Valve and Full SS Source > Amp' experience being run through the New Speakers and some other owned Cabinet Speakers.

ESL's are Superseded and won't be reintroduced, unless at another time to enable a individual to have a ESL experience.

The New Speakers are not something I can give a accurate direction to, like all supporting ancillaries upstream of the CDT.

All audio equipment in use, is bespoke design /commission built for me over a very long period of time. Still being done at the current time as well. 

The Speakers as a finished product, are the result of a personal retirement project of a CEO of a Speaker Company that is no longer trading.

The Speaker Company had design support from a few individuals who are long-term with Careers working for the Speaker Industry, where their influences extend to Speaker Drive Unit Design for a few very well known Drive Unit Producers and also for a Selection of Speaker Companies that are with Speaker Models that command very large sums of money as a retail price.

Across Four Individuals, 'electronically', a State of the Art Speaker was designed to be the CEO's, ' Mother of all Speakers Builds ', for his and his Spouses retirement.

Well not all goes to plan in this wonderful world, and the CEO quite early in his retirement passed.

I was informed of the loss and that there was a notion to sell at some time some of the audio equipment that was excess. I assisted when the sales started and paid the Widow fair monies for a range of surplus audio equipment.

Prior to the Xmas Holiday 2025, I was contacted about the interest I may have had in the Grand Finale Speakers. With what I knew, I could not refuse, but did have to dig deep to find the monies to have a offer accepted.

I hope this assists with making the posts more clear.

I am in total acceptance of the comments made available from the Career Professionals who offered much design and final use support for these Speakers. I do not familiarise myself too often, if ever, with Speakers reaching up to £1/2 Million, but do know on very good authority these are the real McCoy to be very very worthy competition.

Imagine a retired engineers Kit Car was taken on as a redesign / build by a selection of Formula 1 and NASCAR Engineers and their available support. The end product would be recognisable but definitely not recognisable to the 'average joe' (which I am one ) for the quality of the thought that has been buried within it and the function on offer resulting from that thought. Only experiencing the End Product would supply answers.   

Imagine being given first refusal on such a vehicle, of course one seriously considers digging deep into their coffers. Especially, if it is most economic way to be fast tracked to the top experiences available from your most preferred and invested in hobby.   

I am not familiar with the C7ES2s specifically, but I did own the C7ES3s for a while. 
 

The latter was one of the most underwhelming and overrated speakers I have experienced, among dozens, at all price points below five figures. 
 

I briefly compared them to a pair of Epos Epic 2s that I acquired new for $400. The Epos were a significantly better speaker in all regards except for absolute midrange resolution and bass extension. Other than those two traits, the Epos were the “clear” winner, pardon the pun.

My subsequent experience is that Derek Hughes designs much better speakers for Graham, Spendor (of old) and Stirling Broadcast, even though these brands are less accurate by academic measure. They simply perform more similar to how sound actually propagates through realistic space, since all producers of sound (aside from the theoretically perfect speaker) are imperfect transducers.

There are speakers that easily achieve more resolution than the BBC derivatives (Harbeth et al.) but they tend to sound less “natural” over time, and do tend to cost more to some degree. Personally, I prefer to offset the weaknesses of latter described speaker with warmer upstream components, since the greatest strength of true high end speakers is bass definition and depth, not midrange or treble. 

Hello Dana,

Just out of curiosity, why do you believe you have done all of that box swapping? Some people just enjoy trying new components and putting together new systems, which is a perfectly fine sub-hobby. 

Are you looking to complete a system, or do you just enjoy trying new components and swapping things in and out?

Thank you.