Help in matching pre/amp


Although I have owned a HiFi system for a bit, I don’t really understand all the technical parts of the hobby. I have what I feel is a great sounding system, but curious if my components match well on paper.

 

PreAmp is Aric Audio Motherload XL Input impedance 50 kOhm; output impedance 400 Ohms with a recommendation to keep overall impedance it will be feeding to 10 kOhms. There is also a 5 step output level control which sets the gain of the preamplifier between 3 and 17.

 

Amp is a SET 45 designed by Radu Tarta with input sensitivity 2.3 Vrms; input impedance 91kOhm. It has 8 and 16 ohm  binding posts. 

 

A second amplifier I use is Atmasphere Class D monoamps. 

 

My speakers are Charney Audio with AER BD3 drivers (16 ohm)

Subwoofer are 2 SVS 3000 micro

 

I use AER outputs on the preamp to the amps (with balanced to single ended IC when using the SET) and the parallel RCA outputs to the subs.

 

My questions are as follows:

Does this set up seem to be matched?

What would the best setting for the preamp output control gain setting for the SET and also for the AS Class D?

I have the low pass filters on the subs set to 50 with a slope of 24dB. 

Is there a good reference I can read to help me understand all this?

 

Thoughts? Comments?

 

Much appreciated

dseltz

This is an AI answer, but perhaps others can help confirm or add to this.

CLAUDE: "Your system is well-matched on paper, and you've made thoughtful choices. Let me walk through the technical relationships:

Impedance Matching (Preamp to Amps)

Your Motherload XL has a 400Ω output impedance and recommends feeding loads ≥10kΩ. Both your amps exceed this comfortably:

  • SET 45: 91kΩ input impedance (ratio of 228:1)
  • Atma-Sphere Class D: typically 20-47kΩ (Class D amps generally have high input impedance)

The standard rule is a 10:1 ratio minimum (load impedance to source impedance). You're well beyond this, which means minimal signal loss and excellent frequency response—no bass rolloff or other colorations from impedance interactions.

Gain Staging (The Key Question)

This is where your preamp's adjustable gain becomes crucial. You want enough gain for the system to reach satisfying volume without the preamp's volume control being either too low (degrading resolution) or maxed out (running out of headroom).

For the SET 45 (2.3V sensitivity): This is relatively high sensitivity—it needs only 2.3V to reach full power. Your preamp can output far more than this. I'd start with the lowest gain setting (3) and increase only if you find yourself pushing the volume control past 2-3 o'clock for normal listening. SETs typically have high sensitivity to preserve their low-power nature.

For the Atma-Sphere Class D: These typically need more voltage (often 2-4V for full power, but varies by model). I'd start at gain setting 5-7 and adjust downward if you have excessive volume with minimal rotation of the volume control. Class D amps generally need a bit more drive than SETs.

The real test: At comfortable listening levels, your volume control should typically sit between 9 o'clock and 1 o'clock. Too low suggests excess gain (noise/hiss); too high suggests insufficient gain (running out of headroom).

Subwoofer Integration

Your 50Hz crossover at 24dB/octave is conservative but reasonable for horn speakers, which often have excellent bass extension. The AER BD3 in Charney's bass-reflex horns likely reaches down to 40-45Hz, so crossing at 50Hz creates some overlap—which can work if phase-aligned properly.

Consider experimenting: Try the crossover at 40Hz or even 35Hz. The steep 24dB slope means less overlap, reducing potential phase cancellation between subs and mains. Listen for where the bass sounds most coherent and "of a piece" rather than localized.

Speaker Matching

Your AER BD3s are 16Ω, and you're using the 16Ω taps on your SET. Perfect. The Atma-Sphere Class D amps are typically load-invariant (they don't care about 4/8/16Ω), so those should be fine as well.

Recommended Reading

For understanding these relationships without drowning in electrical engineering:

  1. "The Complete Guide to High-End Audio" by Robert Harley - Chapter on system matching explains impedance, sensitivity, and gain in accessible terms
  2. "Sound Reproduction" by Floyd Toole - More technical but excellent on speaker-room interaction and subwoofer integration
  3. Audio Technical Articles: Roger Sanders' whitepapers on impedance matching (available free online) are remarkably clear

Your system is fundamentally well-conceived. The adjustable gain on your preamp is exactly what you need to optimize different amplifiers. Trust your ears, but now you understand why certain settings will work better than others."

@hilde45 THANKS! Awesome information. I realize this is AI, but assume you agree with the information. Having appreciated your input on many other posts, I do have confidence in your assessment. 

You are much appreciated.

+1 to 

"The Complete Guide to High-End Audio" by Robert Harley 

It is important to match the electrical characteristics and requirement of all your components. That is like step one... and typically consumes maybe a 2% of ones time in evaluating and constructing a system. The real work is on the nuances of sound. Figuring out exactly what "kind of " sound you want... analytical, detailed, musical, natural...etc. Technical specifications fall very short on all but the most obvious sonic characteristics. 

It sound like you have done more  than enough work in the realm of technical specs and have assembled a very good system. Now it is time to delve into sonic characteristics learning about the characteristics it has... which don you appreciate the most and maybe identify some that it does not have. I recommend listening to other systems, and live music... particularly acoustic music... symphony... acoustic jazz. How does your system differ? Do you like the sound live music better?

The book will help with terminology an how to think about sound and music and the components that reproduce it.