Pass XP-17 + MM carts “clip/distort” on peaks, but low-output Paua II is fine — Overload?


 

Hi everyone — I’m trying to troubleshoot a phono issue and would love advice from folks who’ve run a Pass XP-17 with high-output moving magnet carts.

Setup

  • Turntable: Technics SL-1200GR2
  • Phono stage: Pass Labs XP-17
  • Integrated amp: Pass Labs INT-60
  • Speakers: Volti Razz

Cartridges tested

  • Ortofon 2M Black LVB 250 (MM, ~5 mV output)
  • Sumiko Olympia (MM, ~4 mV output )
  • Soundsmith Paua II (very low output, spec is around 0.4 mV)

Problem
With the Ortofon LVB and the Sumiko MM, I get what sounds like clipping/overload (severe distortion + occasional “popping” type artifacts) specifically on high energy / dense musical peaks. It’s not subtle.  On quiet/soft passages it sounds very good.  The Sumiko plays much better but still has the problem a few times on each track.

But with the Paua II, everything plays cleanly — no clipping/distortion on the same passages.

What I’ve tried

  • Verified this happens at the lowest gain setting I can select on the XP-17.
  • Tried RCA outputs from the XP-17 (still happens).
  • Same system, same records, same volume range.
  • Switched to Sutherland KC Vibe MkII phono preamp and everything works great with all three cartridges.

Why I think it’s overload (not mistracking)

  • Two different MM cartridges behave similarly (LVB + Sumiko).
  • The low-output Paua II behaves perfectly.
  • The distortion feels like “headroom running out,” not subtle sibilance or inner-groove distortion.
  • KC Vibe sounds perfect.

Questions

  1. Has anyone experienced XP-17 output overdriving the INT-60 line input stage with high-output MMs?
  2. Any known best practices for XP-17 + high-output MM into INT-60? (Pads/attenuators? Use RCA vs XLR? Any preferred gain strategy?)
  3. Is there a way to confirm whether this is clipping inside the XP-17 vs overloading the INT-60 input stage?

I’m happy to post XP-17 DIP settings (gain/loading/capacitance), cable lengths, and INT-60 input used if that helps. I’d really like to keep using the Ortofon LVB with the XP-17 if possible.

Thanks in advance — any troubleshooting ideas welcome.

 

brighamdoc

Kent’s great! I talked to him several times. 
 

As to cables, if you are not using phono cables from your tonearm/turntable to phono stage, it would not impact moving coil carts but would impact moving magnet due to wrong capacity. It shouldn’t result in clipping though. It would cause a frequency response roll off. 
 

I’m thinking the phono could be faulty. Pass will fix it for you. But it’s annoying nonetheless if it’s busted. 

I used a BlueJean phono cable and a Pro-Ject phono cable and didn't hear a difference.

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@viridian yeah bluejeans are basic and will suck compared to better cables if your system is capable of resolving these differences. But the bluejeans phono cable won’t cause the issue OP is running into. It sounds like the pass phono is faulty or there’s too much gain and it overdrives the line level inputs on preamp.unlikely but hey who knows