2020 update : JC Verdier La Platine


A recent encounter with a JC Verdier dealer as well as a recent Audiogon discussion thread led to the start of this thread. He was in my house updating my La Platine which had been in storage for ten years with thread and oil. While he has high regards for the deck, his newer clients nevertheless prefer a Techdas iii than an 'old' La Platine. Given the proliferation of expensive decks in the past dozen years, La Platine has become very much under-appreciated. 

It's clear to me that the influence of the La Platine is everywhere to be found. Specifically, the magnetic suspension system that was employed 30+ years ago. Even SOTA offers their newer decks with mag. lev. features. And if you read this review: https://www.callas-audio.nl/Callas%20Platine%20Mod%20Kit%20Review.pdf, the Continuum Caliburn uses the same concept, which was not acknowledged in Fremer's review, albeit with more sophisticated , and expensive, execution.

It is also clear to me that there is much misunderstanding of the workings of the La Platine. I for one have contributed to this. The motor of the La Platine, for example, has been much maligned. The thread drive is another aspect of the turntable that have been described as inferior. With regard to the motor and thread drive, I have been set straight by Chris @ct0517 and Lyubomir @lbelchev. Experimenting with the different types of silk threads, the tightness to the platter  and a renewed understanding of the soundness of the Philips motor have been rewarded with better dynamics and transparency. 

The funny thing is that during the past two years of re-engagement with audio, I have questioned ownership of every components in my arsenal except the La Platine. It has always been a keeper. I wonder if La Platine owners would contribute to celebrating this 'old' deck with tales, advice, and insights?

Cheers!
ledoux1238

AT 616 are today in Japan found at a cost typically between £30 - £50 

I have imported quite a batch over a period of Years.

https://www.fromjapan.co.jp/japan/en/auction/yahoo/input/v1213577180/ 

The Air Bags are also great, and also lend themselves quite nicely, if one wants to create a cheap trial into deciding if Suspension Support is to create something worth pursuing further. If a individual is willing to periodically give the Bag a few puffs of air, these might prove themselves to be worthy of being a permanent footer, offering a large percentage of the performance of what much more expensive alternatives can produce. 

 

 @ledoux1238 , for use under the TT, I will be using this version with delrin insert and short spikes. By looking at their construction, I don’t think you have to worry about their weight capacity, I believe a set of 4 can handle a 100kg TT easily.

https://avantgardehongkong.com/products/turntable-isolator

@thekong 

This is the one, 140kg load capacity for four.

 

@pindac 

I am able to source these locally. Thanks!

 

I've got a batch of 8 x 616 now purchased and approaching their final deadline for shipping. If I had more shipping time left I would be following these to make a bid near the auctions end. 

My new speakers are now to be seated on my latest 616 purchased with a few spare left to introduce to other footer roles. A single 616 has been ideal for sitting my Valve Phon's on, only not be used as a permanent footer, use it only when the Phon' is in use. The same may prove beneficial for the new SS Phon' which is imminent to arrive. 

My New Valve Pre's are designed to be used as a typical chassis, or can be flipped to the Vertical so the base is a side wall. 2 x 616 will be the ideal footer when used in the side wall is serving as the chassis base.

There is one thing learnt from my experiences with Valve equipment, Valve circuits  react very attractively to being on a suspension, and this get even better when a Sub-plinth is in use using a RIDWB as the Sub-plinth material.      

https://www.fromjapan.co.jp/japan/en/auction/yahoo/input/c1215208433/