Ethernet


I’m considering using a 25 foot ethernet cable run from my router to my Node N130 instead of using wi-fi. Will there be an improvement by bypassing the wifi receiver inside the Node? Any recommendations/input would be much appreciated..

maprik

@danmar123 - don’t give up just yet : ) - regardless of what the 902 supports, it just requires the correct configuration - a few others reported problems connecting it. I don’t know how to link to keithc’s directions in WBF, so here they are, cut and pasted wholesale from his informative post - 

Setup WR902AC:
1. Look at the back of the unit. It should say the name of the device Wifi.
2. Power up the unit using the 5V micro USB. Give it a minute.
3. On a computer select the 2.4Ghz Wifi from the TPLink. Type in the password, this is on the back label on step #1.
4. Once you’re connected, go to http://tplinkwifi.net
(If this step does not work use a fresh browser after deleting the cache)
5. The first time it will force you to set a new admin password.
6. Once you’re in the menu, cancel the quick setup.
7. On the left bar go to the Wireless 5Ghz. Turn off this radio.
8. Go to USB settings. Under Storage Sharing and FTP Server tabs disable both.
9. Go to System Tools, Time Settings, and click on Daylight Savings, Save, Get time from PC, Save. Close the browser.
10. Unplug the power from the TPLink.
11. On the left side of the device move the physical toggle down to CLIENT.
12. Reattach the power. Select the TPLink wifi again and connect.
13. Open the browser again and go back to TPLinkwifi.net
14. Go to Quick Setup. Click Next. Now select CLIENT. Next.
15. There should be a list of your home’s 2.4Gz wifi channels. Select your Wifi with the highest signal strength. On the next screen it will ask for your Wifi password. Click Next, then Next.
16. At the end of the setup it will ask you to click FINISH. Then the device will reset. This will take 2 minutes.
17. At this point the TPLInk Wifi ID will disappear from your computer’s Wifi list. The TPLink is now an extension of your home Wifi. If you connect your computer to the TPLink via LAN it will be an ethernet hotspot (turn off your computer’s Wifi first!). Run a test by opening a browser and you should have normal internet access.
18. You’re all set up! Connect the TPLink to your music server using a dedicated low-noise battery and enjoy! Make sure the battery back is detached from any charging input as that can add noise. 

You will want to reset it before running through the steps. For the best possible way forward, check in on the thread at WBF I indicated in my first post here. Trust me, you won’t want to miss out on this super value for peanuts uptick. Many long termers on WBF have called this the best thread ever on that forum ; )

sorry I couldn’t reply sooner - audiogon has something in place that prevented me from messaging you direct : (

In friendship - kevin
 

@steakster - no thanks to me, I’m merely the messenger of a messenger - it’s Eric of ethernet-sound.com and keithc all the thanks goes to : ) 

on a related note, try replacing your fidelizer with the 902 - it’ll cost the lower side of usd50 - and with an even lower ripple power bank like the romoss pea40 pro - you might well be amazed how much noise is created by the fidelizer in client mode. You may not hear a difference, but my bet is that the tplink pocket router will outperform the higher powered fidelizer on pure account of the noise created by power corruption. The thread on WBF has massive pushback from keetakawee of fidelizer passively disparaging the findings of the cheap tplink902, in obvious fear that if more audiophiles catch on, many manufacturers of higher priced routers and switches will find fewer takers of their products - issues keithc has very graciously and respectedly responded to in post #423 on the WBF thread. My take on this is that the understandable concern from manufacturers about this discovery will push them to create cheaper AND higher performing products for source signal delivery to servers and streamers. It’s a crazy lovely sight to have the cheap white plastic tplink right alongside my solid copper rigs ; ) Seriously, do read that entire thread if you haven’t already. The original research on this tplink902 is in the original thread  of the German site at ethernet-sound.com under Eric, but you might find it easier to read through the ongoing discussion on the WBF thread as it doesn’t require translation and has moved the goalposts just a touch. 
This discovery is going to cause a rethink on power management and noise isolation by many manufacturers, I believe. It’s great you already had your air gap between home router and client router, now get that tplink wr902 to see the added difference it will may make - and please report your findings! ; )

 

In friendship - kevin

@kevn   I’ll check it out.

Digital streaming for high-fidelity audio is in its infancy.   So much more to be learned and implemented.    Go affordability!

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On the TX/Transmission end – is my approach via battery-operated WiFi - @12vdc/<1 amp.

On the RX/Reception end – is the TPlink 902 approach via battery-operated WiFi - @5vdc/<1 amp.

The similarity is low power - vdc/battery-operated.*   It would be very interesting to try both at the same time. 🤔  The only weak link is the battery life.   No doubt, an automated recharging system could be implemented - like on my battery-operated DAC.    

It’s all good news for music lovers!

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*Re: Noise Isolation/Power Management.   I suspect there’s much more difference between: VAC vs VDC, than there is between: 5 vdc/<1 amp vs 12 vdc/<1 amp.

$500 is a decent price for a cat 7 audiophile quality cable. I tried a BJ interconnect that some people thought it was the end all cable to own. It was junk, I sold it as fast as I could. Compared to my good cables, it was flat sounding like somebody put a comforter over the speakers, soundstage collapsed, sure they were cheap compared to my 20x the price cables, but I’ll pay the difference.

The poster referenced the eero mesh router, do not get any mesh router less than a 6e compatible router, getting a 7 mesh would even be better. Any mesh router that is WiFi 6 or earlier is junk. I use 4 6e mesh routers and 1 Linksys non mesh router in my house, and I’ve installed 5 or more mesh routers in bigger homes.

Always go wired, only use WiFi when you can’t go wired. Also, use each mesh router as a switch so you can wire all your devices and let the 6e/7 mesh router use its 2.5Gb backhaul to route the traffic instead of using the 2.4ghz WiFi on your device.

Never use a network switch with a walwart, I use a $500 power cable in my switch.

I am running a Netgear Orbi mesh with 2 satellites. My streamer (Linn ADSM/3) does not support wireless.  I placed one of the satellites close to my audio equipment and run a 1ft ethernet cable from the satellite to the Linn.  I get fantastic sound and my speed is approaching 1Gig.  I tested going with an ethernet cable from the router directly to the Linn and can hear no difference.  My primary source is Qobuz or music that I ripped to a Mac Mini that I use as a music server.