Old recordings sound poor on my Burmester 232


Burmester 232 is a fine machine. But for older recordings the sound is bright and poor compared to my Willsenton R8 which is excellent bang for buck and handles old recordings well  Will adding a quality tube preamp to my 232 help? Is there any change I can make? My system is Burmester 232 + Focal Kanta 3s + LTA Aero DAC + Musical Fidelity MX streamer + Cardas clear reflection cables.

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This is a good example of how a reasonably highly resolving system accentuates the shortcomings of poor recordings. The LTA MicroZOTL Level 3 Pre pairs well with the Aero DAC, but it does not add much warmth, as one might expect from a tube preamp. It probably won’t magically fix harsh mastering. On the other hand, adding a heavily colored tube amp could compromise the clarity of the Burmester.

I’ve experienced a similar situation, but later I realized that what I needed was not warmth, but smoothness and liquidity. Based on my research, you could try a line-transformer passive pre like the Phasemation LT-1000. You can also explore forums to find other potentially suitable options, but I keep seeing reports that transformer-coupled I/O passive units often outperform many tube or active preamps.

You have a 25K integrated amplifier, I think part of your problem is your electronics 

You have a 4K DAC, Not a very high quality streamer, 

Focal kanta 3 are good, But for that amplifier your equipment is the weak link 

I owned a pair of kanta 3, with a Macintosh MA9000 integrated those two were good match but when I upgrade it to D'Agostino monos 

Progression, My speakers were the weak, I also had to upgrade my components 

To get everything humming along with all my cabling when you get a good amplifier you need good matching components and cabling it wouldn't hurt to run a dedicated line also, Yes it's expensive but everything comes and bits and pieces until you get it where you want it, But that burmeister 232 is a hell of a integrated

I had a similar problem with my office solid state rig- some records sounded unpleasant and harsh. I experimented with an eBay buy- a 1996 Audio Research SP-9 preamp with a phono section as they all had back in the day.  All in about $1500. I had to buy some decent RCA cabling as my system was all XLR. The tube preamp warmed up the old recordings nicely and it's relaxed presentation was pleasing to me. I swapped the power amps (Bryston 4B3 to an ARC VT130) with little satisfaction. The SS power amp was way quieter and not as sexy but the bass was much better- tight and strong. Time has been a friend to the Bryston brand. 

The tube gear is noisy compared to the 2025 Bryston amp and BR 20 preamp.  I guess it's a trade-off. Warmer tube sound with some background noise vs. dead quiet SS gear that is colder sounding.

Anyhow- my point is the cheap (by today's standards)  ARC preamp was a welcome addition to my office system- adding that "fireside with friends" feeling to the music.  I want a ref 6 SE now- greedy eyes LOL.

Congrats on that 232. Nice piece! 

I traded in my ARC Ref 3 Preamp and PH-7 phono preamp for Pass Labs XP30 preamp and XP-25 phono preamp. The Pass Labs are extremely clear, but I am having the same problem with treble. A friend came over and wanted to hear Springstein's "Dancing in the Dark." I felt like a cheese grater was playing havoc with my eardrums. I find if I turn up the capacitance on my phono preamp it helps a bit. But bottom line, tubes make bad recordings sound better, using a bit of friendly distortion. A friend told me that my system is now so transparent everything comes through, warts and all. I think I'd go back to a good tube system, but I've gotten to the point in life where I can no longer crawl and stoop in the 20" space behind my racks to change tubes. Good recordings, however, sound wonderful on my rig now. Better than tubes because of the clarity .

@amvroofing Made a couple of tweaks. Added the ifi lan silencer, ifi purifier pro and ifi ipower x to clean up my LAN signal, My system sounds significantly better now for bad recordings. Burmester 232 is indeed a hell of an integrated..