Marantz SA-10 vs Marantz SACD-10


I have a Marantz SA-10 CD player and I am really pleased I made that decision. However, I can not help but wonder If anyone here thinks that the Marantz SACD-10 player is actually $4,000 better than a SA-10. And why? Inquiring minds want to know.

 

ckkt66

Comparing different brands using the exact same cables automatically discredits the comparison.  That is a bad A/B test.  The goal is to make each unit sound as good as it can in the system it is going to be used in.  Not comparing it on a friends system, in a friends room, which is different than yours.   That is almost meaningless.  Also, comparing two players by just dropping them into your system is also a bad test.  It is in no way acceptable to believe that the cables one owns currently are still going to be the correct ones when swapping out equipment.  The chain is broken and the cables most likely need to be changed if you are trying to max out the system.  This is so annoying that people don't understand this.  You can't just do A/B comparisons using one set system... anyways,  I own a ruby and a sa10 and really wanted to buy the sacd10 when it came out.  But after listening to all available YouTube videos fronted by a sacd10 and reading the comments below, then auditioning in my system, one thing has become very clear.  The sacd10 is definitely a lower quality sound than the sa10, and by a mile.  It is a completely flawed player.  It has man-made ringing, which is clearly audible even on the videos.  It doesn't come close to the clarity of a sa10.  Whether you prefer Esoteric or Marantz is a matter of taste, but I doubt any Marantz owner would choose a SACD10 over a sa10 as a standalone player.  I don't see that at all.  But I definitely see sa10 owners wanting to use a sacd10 as a transport to a dac.  That I think is a great option.  Fabulous!!  Marantz and Esoteric are completely different sound signatures; they are not competitors in any way.  

@mahandave 

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Couldn't agree more, I have three source components and spend much time with each trying different power cords and interconnects till finding the best combination. 

It is rather amazing how much better a component can sound with better matched wires. I admit that I have limited wires to try, and I'm sure there is a combo I don't own that could provide better sound. Never the less what I have has allowed me to fine tune each components sound to a much more enjoyable experience.

I was going to sit this one out, but decided to respectfully offer the following comments.  First and foremost, following the scientific method, which is a must for this engineer, it is axiomatic that only one, repeat one, variable is changed at a time.  Then the results before and after are compared.  By that standard the method described by @stereo5 in his post is valid.  Second, I own an SA10 and it is a wonderful player and like you, I would like to know how it compares with the new one.  So far we have not heard from anyone who has directly compared them.  

@regafan were you able to compare the sound of your SACD 10 to a previous generation Marantz SA10?  It would be interesting to know what improvements might be heard.  I have compared my SA10 to Qobuz and generally the Marantz sounds better.  I also have a Luxman D10X, and it sounds better than my Marantz. I find the differences are not huge, but with careful listening they are there.