What innovative, unconventional cartridge designs can you recommend?


Most cartridges have a stylus and cantilever where the transducer (magnet, iron or coil) sits on the far end of the cantilever.  What other designs are there?

I am mindful of two designs which put the business end right on top of the stylus.  The first is the moving coil (MC) Audio Technica AT-ART1000 which places two tiny coils, each 0.9-mm diameter, with eight turns of wire directly above the stylus.  Australian price is about AUD-7000 and there apparently is a newer model, slightly less exxe. the ART1000X.  This has square coils for a bit more output, and threaded mounting holes.

A downside is that stylus replacement involves a factory maintenance program and the Australian website page describing this service does not exist.

Another design is optical, exemplified by DS Audio's range.  While these still need a stylus to trace the groove, the signal is produced by reading the intensity of light produced by a Light Emitting Diode (LED) hitting two sensors.  Between the LED and the sensors are two 'shades' mounted above the stylus which change the amount of light as the stylus vibrates.  These cartridges need a special "photo-stage" to replace the conventional phono-stage which is an additional expense.

Australian prices including photo-stages range from AUD-2,150 for the DS-E1 to the DS Master 3 at approximately AUD-40,800, which is a bit outside my price range!  Where is the sweet spot?

What other way-out designs are there?

richardbrand

@tcutter 

I have the "cheap" DS Audio DS003 ensemble

Thanks for your comments as a DS Audio consumer, much appreciated.

Your "cheap" I think only has validity in the context of DS Audio where prices rocket to astronomical quite quickly.

I am leaning towards the DS003 cartridge paired with the next level down equalizer, the DS-E3 which would save several thousand dollars.  This is mainly to keep the cost down while getting a line contact stylus because I think they do a good job reading over the wear created by other shapes!

Can you comment on this suggestion?  I know there are several third-party vendors who make equalizers for DS Audio’s optical cartridges, but I have yet to build a list.  Or to read a comparison review ...

A couple of posts ago I estimated the heat output of a stylus as about 5 microwatts.

Electromagnetic cartridges, moving magnet MM or moving coil MC, also generate electrical power so I thought an estimate of how much would be in order.

A moving magnet (MM) cartridge produces an output voltage, typically around 5-millivolts, but is loaded by a specific impedance, which is typically about 47,000-ohms.  From Ohm's Law, voltage = current x resistance.  So current is voltage divided by resistance, or 0.005 / 47000 = 0.1 microamps roughly.

Power is current x voltage, 0.005 x 0.1 = 0.0005 microwatts which I guess would be 5-nanowatts for a typical MM cartridge playing a well modulated groove.

Low Output Moving Coil cartridges produce much less voltage but feed it into much lower impedance loads.  Without doing the estimate, I doubt that the wattage would be much different

 

@richardbrand 

My understanding is that the equalizer has more impact than the cartridge on the sound, hence the stupid crazy high cost of their grandmaster equalizer.  If you’re going to go the optical route, I think you should take fullest advantage of it from the get-go. Hi-fi shark has some options for the DS 003 equalizer preowned. Something to consider. 
 

The only other optical equalizer of which I'm aware is made by Meitner. Anything from him is bound to be good. And expensive. 

@tcutter 

Apparently DS Audio only allows 3rd parties with a global distribution network to list on their site.  There are some small European manufacturers that make equalizers who are disqualified for DS Audio's website.  At least one makes an equalizer without RIAA correction for plugging into a standard MM phono stage.  

The DS Audio range starts with an op-amp based unit and tops out with a two-box solution weighing 40-kgs, more than most power amplifiers!

And so the search goes on ...

The current output of a LOMC cartridge is best estimated by dividing its output V by its internal resistance assuming zero ohm load, is it not?