I did not compare rca to xlr outs - don’t want to use the adapters. My understanding is gain settings are the same for rca and xlr outs but xlr out is a hotter signal that adds about 6db. That’s my understanding. Again switching to 60db resulted in more natural sound.
Phono Stage with XLR outs
Taking another stab at vinyl after about a year break. Not going too fancy but would like a phono stage with both RCA and XLR outputs. My amp, Boulder 866, only accepts XLR. I do have a set of Cardas adapters but thinking to do it right.
Budget - under $1500 used or new.
Table - Clearaudio Concept with Hana ML moving coil cartridge.
Not trying to compete with my Meitner MA3i digital front end. Just looking for good natural presentation.
Contenders - Pro-Ject DS3 B, Black Ice Audio Fusion, McIntosh MP100
Any other candidates that I should consider?
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“It’s super clean, low noise, low distortion, quiet and natural sounding but the cleanliness of it makes it sound like a good and refined digital front end” This is the point where you start exploring the different tube phono stages available. A tube phono stage with XLR outputs deserves a closer look—specifically, whether those balanced outputs are truly balanced or simply added for convenience. The implementation makes all the difference. |
I have always found Whest, the company, to be a bit vague in describing their circuitry, which is fine. But given the lack of information on their website and the fact that the stated specifications of the Two.2 do not stipulate that the balanced outputs offer any additional gain vs the SE outputs, I would guess there is no difference. The Two.2 derives a balanced output from an SE circuit, at the output of the device. This means it takes the amplified SE signal to start with and splits it into plus and minus phases. At that point, no gain can be added unless they were to use an added gain device at that output. So more likely the gain is the same from either output. Given that you do hear a difference, and I do not doubt that, it may be that the balanced output circuit per se adds a coloration. |
@lewm my apologies as I may have not been 100% clear with my previous statement. 2. Whest comes set up for a low MC cartridge from factory. The default setting is 100 ohm with 65db gain. I have used this to start my auditioning. I quickly realized it wasn’t optimal - gain was too much…over the top unnatural dynamics and slam, instruments were too forward and took on artificial sound. I reached out to Whest and James responded that for my cartridge, which is Hana ML, he believes the right setting would be 60db. I switched it and bam! More natural and relaxed presentation. @lalitk without a doubt I will explore tube phono stages! I’m anxious to try a nice balanced tube stage. I’m trying to figure out if this clearaudio table is a keeper. I might explore a better table first before I dive into phono stages. I love the Hana ML cart that’s a keeper. So we’ll see. Not sure yet what direction this analog setup is headed in. |
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