Forget cables as snakeoil. There's a new snake King in town.


There are a few owners of relatively well-known companies that have such ridiculous amplifiers beliefs, that it boggles the mind. These people are owners of different companies. Not a complete nobody.

Think all cables sound the same? Well I'm here to inform you all amplifiers sound the same too (according to these company owners).

Ryan Charpentier (owner of Ascend audio) thinks an AVR is as good as any other amplifiers and to even spend more money on any dedicated amplifier would be a waste of money. In his words, the noise floor is too low for most systems to distinguish between AVR and another amp.

Dylan (owner of Buckeye) thinks all amplifiers sound the same when "properly designed. To add more context, he thinks his Hypex class D is perfection. Perfect in the sense that it is "100% true to the source material" and cannot be improved any further. Even 500 years from now. 

We have gone from all cables sound the same -> all amplifiers sound the same.

I have nothing else to say because I'm simply speechless.

samureyex

You guys think this huge disagreement in audio (in all sort of ways) is similar to the blue dress / yellow dress phenomenon a few years back? Meaning part of the population is physically unable to see the dress for it’s actual color.

I'm a firm believer in the premise that all equipment degrades the original source. I think the "snake oil" thing comes in to play when people buy into the belief that all these little tweaks and devices somehow additively get us closer to perfection.

I like to make the analogy with auto performance and fuel mileage. Those of us old enough to remember the emission and fuel shortage debacle that started in the early 1970's may remember the advertising and articles that appeared in the auto magazines of the day. All manner of add ons, tweaks and gadgets promised amazing fuel milage and performance enhancements. If one were to believe it all, you would have had to tow a tanker behind your car to collect all the excess fuel.

Our brains and hearing are complicated far beyond our comprehension. We all hear what we hear and not necessarily what others do. If money is no object, buy with the abandon of a drunken sailor and have fun, but don't tell others that their stuff is a POS. Remember that your opinion is just that and when you bad mouth other brands, as some are prone to, others might think that's their holy grail. 

 

@llg98ljk so what you’re saying is, if a person see a blue dress as yellow and not blue, that person is not wrong?

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@llg98ljk   IMO your confusing "snake oil" with component potential, The hype people...when dealers/sellers and reviewers over exaggerate the potential or the performance ceiling of a component creates "snake oil". The Point Source 10 is a perfect recent example of this. It currently sells for less than when introduced and unfortunately many were convinced(sold)before even hearing it.