Striking a balance between musicality and resolution


As my years and experience in this hobby continue to grow I notice a divergence between those seeking extreme resolution and detail from their music reproduction systems and those in search of maximum musicality.

In theory, high-end audio systems should provide more than garden variety stereo systems. In my view that means more detail and information should be heard from a high-end music reproduction system than one hears from ordinary HiFi stereo systems set ups. BUT is there such thing as too much resolution and detail in a stereo system’s sound presentation?

Some people feel that a less detailed presentation that is easier for your brain to process has better flow and provides more enjoyable listening.

So there is the dichotomy. Should one pay more to hear less? Can a frequency response performance that is curtailed at both frequency extremes be desired and praised?

Those that seek a “more musical” presentation usually point to their belief that that is how they hear live un-amplified acoustic music in the real world. In nature, high frequencies attenuate and decay with distance from the source and sound waves get absorbed, diffracted, reflected, and diffused by the environmental factors and landscapes; so they are not wrong in stating that in the real world the sound of music is less detailed and extended. The issue is that when we listen to our music reproduction systems at home we are not listening to live un-amplified music in a concert venue, but rather professionally produced audio recordings typically recorded with close-microphones techniques.

So the question is, do we want our systems to reproduce the sound on the commercial audio recordings accurately or does one want hear the sound the way one thinks that it should sound?

Lucky for me, I have enough systems at home that I have been able to design, set up, and tune them for different targeted resultant sound, sound presentation, and sound qualities. For instance, my OKTAN6 ultimate horn system is a dissecting microscope, my Pinnacle horn system aims at extreme musicality, and my WAAR reference system is a chameleon, which can be adjusted to sound exactly how you want it to sound in real-time.

My “test-bed” system takes on the sound character and sound qualities of the components in use and it is excellent for evaluating what new components have to offer or bring to the table in terms of sound qualities. But with the Acapella TW-1S ION plasma super-tweeters extending the high frequencies, the TBI Emperor subwoofers extending the low frequencies, and the highly detailed & nuanced Digital Audio Denmark AX24 DSD dac streaming HQPLAYER as the source, the “Test Bed” system is a highly resolving system.

As with everything else in life, is there a happy medium or compromise that gives you the best of those worlds? I believe that there is and that great music reproduction systems can be tuned to strike a balance between musicality and resolution. If one listens to the evolution of my OKTAN6 ultimate horn system for instance you can hear that the fine tuning is driving the sound in that direction.

So during last night’s listening session I adjusted the sound of my “Test Bed” system to a more musical sound presentation. The “Test Bed” system is always in flux so it allows me to experiment, explore, tweak, tune, and have fun with it.

Here is an audio recording from last night’s listening session that captures the revised sound presentation and conveys the sound qualities that exemplify a more organic sound versus a more delineated & resolved sound presentation:
 

The Way It Goes

 

carlos269

Dear @carlos269   :I just take my time and I listen your  YT  " Just like heaven " and in this same old laptop listened Dido YT White Flag and the main difference ( not for much ) is in the sound of drums in favor of your recording but we have to take in count the very low quality sound of this laptop but even that the Didovoice sounds realy fine for me.

R.

rauliruegas  @mihorn my system is in the virtual way here in Audiogon.

I only find pictures of equipment. Pictures mean nothing to me even if it’s the most expensive audio system in the world. Only the sound matters to me. If possible, please post the link of your system sound.

This is important to me because I can only listen system more than 3 minutes is Carlos audio system (other than my system) in this whole world. If your system sounds close to excellent Carlos’ system, it’ll be a big plus to me.

Many of you can’t hear the true sound of Carlos and my videos’ sounds due to heavily biased your ears. Compare to the original music. Or if you wonder, ask your wife.  Alex/Wavetouch audio

Carlos system -  Just Like Heaven

My system - Chris De Burgh - Lady In Red

Original - Chris De Burgh - Lady In Red

Dear @carlos269  : We/you can't avoid trade-offas that always exist.

 

You already choose those trade-offs that make you happy and I choose mine too. You are happy and I'm happy too.. 

That's the MUSIC enjoyment.

 

Btw, @mihorn  , yes my ears and whole body are biased to de MUSIC nothing else.

Your ears are biased to...?

 

R.

 

@mahgister it appears to me that you have gone down a BAACH 3D Sound rabbit hole. Yes what you have stated is true but you have taken my statements to extremes, of course there is always direct and reflected sound and if the timing is less than 30 milliseconds then the reflected sound is perceived as part of the direct sound, but unless you are listening to your system in a shoebox then the brain’s sound arbitrator can distinguish and dismiss the reflection. For most of us the room acoustical parameters are what they are and we don’t use DSP to counter them. As a matter of fact, in my systems I take the room’s acoustic parameters as a given, along with everything else, and it is only then that I start to adjust the resultant sound at the listening chair position to match my target sound qualities. I simply don’t worry about many, if any, of the individual contributors that I can’t control and focus solely on adjusting the composite resultant sound at the listening chair position.

You got me curious now. Please post some audio recordings of your system so that we can hear what all that working knowledge on spatial audio and psychoacoustics has been able to do for you and the sound of your system. Let’s hear what you have been able to accomplish. Surely all this information has yielded something special. Please share some pictures of your system and room set up, along with some audio recordings. I’m looking forward to hearing what has been distilled from all the information you have presented here.

 

rauliruegas      @mihorn  , yes my ears and whole body are biased to de MUSIC nothing else.

Your ears are biased to...?

My ears are least biased and similar to non-audiophiles. My system is the only natural sound system (meaning reproducing the original sound). My ears are biased to the true original performance (not the original recording). All mics and recordings are un-natural. Alex/Wavetouch audio