Streamers - Auralic, Aurender, Lumin, others...


Any recommendations, please? :)
I'm looking for a streamer only – without a DAC.

I’ve been leaning toward the Auralic Aries S1 since it’s reasonably priced and available pre-owned. It also has a coaxial input, so I could connect my CD player as a transport. I’d mostly use it as a Roon endpoint, as I run Roon on a Mac Mini and really enjoy it — especially for its great music recommendations.

I’ve read some threads here, and many of you seem to love Aurender and Lumin. Has anyone had a chance to compare them with the Auralic?

Thanks!

gabriel123

clocking quality is key as is noise management... different dacs work better or worse depending on their ideal connection/digital feed, so the master clock needs to be at the right place

it is all quite system and situation dependent, from reliability of internet feed, to power quality from the mains ac line, to local in-room/in-house power quality resulting from noise from other devices, to choices of hifi gear

all this said, i think the major rules to abide by are:

a. clearly know what dac you are wanting to feed the music stream to, and optimize around that specific dac input

b.  if it is a usb feed, then get the best clock at the dac (either within it, or on newer dacs, drive the dac’s external clock input with a quality external clock)

c. if it is a feed via aes ebu, spdif rca/bnc or i2s, then the clock signal is fed to the downstream dac from the streamer, thus the streamer should have the highest quality master clock

d. use linear power supplies wherever possible, not just for the quality of power supplied to the devices, but to minimize the spurious noise put into the shared ac line by smps’s

e. try to filter/cleanse the  ethernet feed well with passive (muon) or active (optical isolation, etherregen, hifi oriented switches etc etc) solutions ... note that most common ethernet use lowest common denominator switch mode power supplies

@ghdprentice  Thanks for your explanation about the clock — it’s the same thing I mentioned in my previous post about the master USB clock in a USB connection.
So, in my opinion, I already have a great DAC — a Lampizator Big 7 MK II with the Engine 11 upgrade. It used to be the top model from Lampizator some time ago (though now it seems like there’s a new one every month). I’m going to use a USB connection from the streamer. In that case, should I still pay through the nose for an expensive streamer, or I will not feel so much difference when choosing the cheaper one like Volumio?

Check out measurements section of hifi news reviews of streamers.  Noise / jitter performance of Rivo was comparable to $30k+ streamers they also tested.  That was using usb - vanishingly low.  I believe one of the upgrades to Rivo+ is clock.

The Rivo+ offers excellent sound quality as a streamer, but you’ll need to work around some software glitches — for example, the Qobuz playlist doesn’t appear when you try to add titles to it. However, the Volumio app sounds better than Qobuz Connect so I stick with it.

@gabriel123  I am never really sure what status the Roon is - server or endpoint - I now have so many DACs and individual setups!

I bought a Roon Nucleus One and eventually migrated or backed up to it all the songs on my Innuous ZEN MK3 which I bought used here. It came with a lot of music on it that the orignal owner graciously left present for me to explore.

It is attached my my home server directly (an Ubiquiti build) and so I can access it from any network connection in the home. I tend to use wired over wireless connections. So it sits in a closet and my Innuos sits in my office attached to the network and my office sound system. When I open Roon on my desktop computer, it is one of my choices for output. The Innuos also shows up on my phone and iPad apps.

My streamer is attached to a mostly Laiv Harmony system and Closer Acoustics speakers in my home office.

https://www.audiogon.com/systems/12144#&gid=1&pid=1

My Bluesound Node is attached to a McIntosh integrated amp (MA252) in the living room and it too is to be found in my choices for output the app.

https://www.audiogon.com/systems/12143#&gid=1&pid=4

Slightly different rooms and sound characteristics, I guess, but both are available in the Roon app(s) as a place to output the sound.

Tim