I have "no beef" against Amir...
Making measures and verifying specs is useful for all...
Once this is done and said,
Claiming his set of measures is all there is to say about human hearing "truth" which must be debunked with double blind test is Amir claim, which become, as it was said in a less diplomatical way than me, Milind Kunchur (he was attacked by Amir ) a cult guru.
Amir has a bone against subjective audiophiles ...
Myself i trust acoustics (with an s) to understand sound and music experience which is my goal now...
I am no more in applied acoustics and experiments for my own sake... I am satisfied with my system/room and headphones too ...
Yes it is a good thing if ASR and audiogon may speak more about room acoustics because it is the core of any audio experience. But nowadays this imply DSP also not just mechanical acoustics...
But the most important subject for our own education is hearing theory and my debate with Amir was only centered on this and not on room acoustic physical and psycho-acoustics parameters versus the gear measures as you erroneously implied above...
If i could posted again the 8 articles i posted and if you read them you will understand what they all have in common : the way human hearing work....
We are in the core of an acoustics revolution right now not only with applied acoustics revolutionary products for all from DSP but more importantly in our own understanding of hearing and music and speech...This is what interest me the most.
it is not that Amir must spend more time on auditory science, he cannot do this without reverse his course and his stance about human hearing abilities, workings, and power. He will never do that.It will kill his marketing.
The only time Amir spoke about auditory science is like James Randi debunking psychic abilities and ghosts for the same reasons: negating they exist.
Thanks Amir in the name of all for your verification of design specs which may be useful for sure. No thanks Amir i refuse your ideology, your claims that your measures said it all and nothing else. This sentence resume my opinion about Amir.
@mahgister Fair enough (I think!) I do recall reading through a couple of your papers on hearing and psychoacoustics (at least one I was familiar with which was a long-form overview of human auditory systems).
There may be a disconnect, though, in the focus on how to apply psychoacoustics and acoustics in the reproduction of music. For instance, we know about ideas like masking and frequency binning, as well as nonlinear properties of hearing, but what we are primarily doing in reproducing music is trying to achieve fidelity to the original sources. We can do important things like room correction, binaural processing, DSP, to try to compensate for the limitations at the headphone/speaker/room level. There is also the amazing mathematics for spatial representations that we are now becoming accustomed to.
So is your complaint that ASR and Amir don’t spend enough time discussing these topics that you consider more relevant to auditory science and spend too much time on equipment? Is that your beef?