Is ASR for real, or is it only for those sub $1k or even sub $2K?


I did some browsing on the forum and it seems like most don't own very expensive gears.  Most of them own mostly sub 1K or 2K gears.  

I recently ask about feedback on the Polk R700 but after about a month with no responds.  I did a search "ASR Polk R700", with all but one poster which actually owned a pair.  Most of them would point you to some measurement and some theoretical discussion but non actually own a pair.

I also looked at a few posts on budget speakers such as the Kef Q7 or Polk R600, but I didn't see any actual owners responding.  

I don't mean to knock on them but ASR seems like a lot of hype but very little substance.

andy2

I don't think any of these complaints really work. If there is nothing present in the signal that might be the basis for a claimed experience, then the claimed experience is either random or driven by extra-stimuli factors (order effects, frequency effects, time-of-day, fatigue, intoxication, what-have-you). It's not some kind of inverted bias to simply say that it is unlikely there are auditory differences when measurements support that claim.

As for hypocrisy about audibility, some folks admit that but like exceptional engineering even knowing the gear all likely sounds the same. I can make a moral case against unnecessary spending but it would lead to a fairly sterile life.

Ultimately, though, these complaints are flawed generalizations. Many of the readers of ASR are engineers and designers who are just exercising their intellect and buy little or nothing on the big board.

Let me draw an analogy. I went from physics to running an organisation. My natural inclination was to try to quantify everything like an accountant. This approach is powerful. Yet, I soon realised it is only half the story. The soft side is just as important as the hard numbers. 

Counting is the easy bit. It gives the anally retentive a false sense of security. There is no point in nailing down details that are not relevant to the desired outcome. Measuring what is important is usually much harder if not impossible. 

I don’t deny the value of accountants. But I wouldn’t want them running the show, unless they are prepared to step outside the narrow confines of their original discipline. 

The key point here is giving more credence to quantitative data and ignoring qualitative data is short sighted and potentially disastrous. We tend to do that because it's superficially easier.

@markwd 

They are using cod psychology to rubbish the experiences of others, which are just as valid as their narrow numbers obsessed world view.

I'm a retired scientist(polymer chemist) and large-data analyst. I spent my career  creating and/or analyzing data to yield multivariate models that would adequately describe real world observations.  I've visited ASR only for an amount of time to figure out what they are doing.  

I don't want to live in that world, never have.