Speaker height...should known better


The other day I was listening to my system sitting down on my chair on my computer when all of sudden I had lower my head to glimpse a song on my screen when I realize, wait this sound much better. I have only lowered my head a few inches or 3 and all of sudden the music sounded way better. So much better to a point where it sounded coherent, phase timed and much more dynamic. I thought for a long time I have placed my Triangle BR03 tweeter at ear level. From the perception view from the listening position I would if thought it was at ear level. I was wrong. Currently my ears level is 3 inches above the tweeter(about the top of the cabinet). When I bought the speakers stands a few years ago, I got them new for my other speakers that were smaller. The current height on the stands are 28". I think what need now are at least 31". No wonder my measurements had a gradual roll off of the high end at around 8k at a couple of speakers I had. Now I am planning on getting higher stands to hear the difference.
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A good rule in proper speaker design is the tweeter above the midrange, midrange above the bass driver.  Its where the drivers combine (at crossover points) that the dispersion of the speaker is determined.

Some designers routinely mount the tweeter below the woofer to better time align the drivers which also results in a simpler crossover network. I think its a much more novel and effective way of doing so sonically, eliminating extra crossover components and the only real consideration is proper placement. There is also consideration given the subject of lobing that is rarely brought up in these posts involves the relationships between the upper and lower frequency drivers on the front baffle, the cross over network along with the listener’s listening position relative to the speaker system as a whole. The designer has taken that into consideration throughout the design process.

Oh, and always having your tweeter at ear level is not always the best thing unless the designers actually intended it to be that way which most of the time they don’t.

I’d say most of the time with dome tweeter cone woofer type set ups they DO want the tweeter above the next driver down.  As these drivers combine output it can often give this very wide horizontal and a medium to narrow vertical plane pattern, with a downward tilt to the combined output. So actually the acoustic center sitting in front is ears lined up between the mid and tweeter or a few degrees below that.  One of those leveling lasers works really well to determine this spot at distance.  With a two way, then the acoustic center is usually midway between the tweet and LF driver.  
NOW exceptions abound.  A horn and cone combo behaves differently due to the pattern of the high frequency driver and then how it uniquely combines to alter dispersion at crossover.  A planar tweeter of any type will exhibit yet different dispersion characteristics as well and the resulting combination at crossover in the room is unique to that design.  For those working with speakers everyday, consistent dispersion is preferred. 

tweeters should be pointing at your ears.    I repositioned my Vandersteens that way and it made a HUGE difference for the better

I appreciate all your help. I have temporarily shimed a couple of cd cases underneath the bottom plate to tilt it back some. Already notice a huge difference. I will be getting some adjustable spikes soon.

You could have  a room node that is at ear height that could cause those types of differences.