Diving into Power... Cable recs for my system and ears....?


Hello All,

 

I have been enjoying a full system upgrade over the past year... the interconnects and digital cables were an eye opener! Now I am bringing my attention to power...

I am currently running my components off a power strip that is 10' long... supposedly designed for audio. All my major components are plugged into this. This power strip is plugged into a wall outlet, which is shared with some lights etc. Also plugged into this power strip is my wifi router. 

 

I have a few questions:

-What is the most important in regards to impact to overall sound if I were to upgrade the power cords? My guess its: 1: Amp.... 2: DAC... 3: Streamer... is that right? Or is it the opposite? 

-Should I have an electrician setup a dedicated outlet to my electrical box, and run my main components off that? Is this worth it? or is there another setup between my electrical box and my components? Or if there is no detectible buzz, should I simply not bother?

-If I should begin looking into power cords as the first upgrade here, what cord would you recommend if I yearn for the following: Extreme startling presence and separation... magic midrange, highs blissful, voice acoustic jazz violin, piano... essentially startling presence as if the instrument is right there... 

I have been enjoying Anticables, and they have a well rated cable in the $300 range which supposedly is as good or better than $1000 cables... but I am open to recommendations...! 

 

Thank you all!

Richard

 

 

 

 

Currently my system (also outlined in my virtual system profile) is as follows:

    • SPEAKERS: Pure Audio Project Duet 15 Horn (Mundorf Silver Gold Oil Cap upgrade and customized crossover w/high pass filter and sweeter meds), Anticable 4.2 Flex Internal wire)
    • STREAMER: Nagra Streamer (Cardas Clear Coaxial)
    • DAC: HoloAudio Spring 2 Level 3 Kitsune edition (Silversmith Fidelium RCA Interconnects)
    • AMP: PrimaLuna Dialogue Premium HP Integrated (RAY TUBES EL34 Reserve power tubes, RADIOTECHNIQUE NOS 12AU7 Gain tubes w/Mullard NOS and Brimar NOS tubes (Anticables 4.2 Flex to speaker)
    • PHONO: Music Hall MMF-9 and McIntosh MP 100 Preamp (Audio-Technica AT160ML MM Cartridge, Anticable 7.3 and Silversmith fidelium Interconnects)
whyrichard

@ktarver I would encourage you to investigate the Shunyata research website, the founder has a PhD and used to work for the government, everything he does is based in science

 

here's the short version which I'm sure you will understand… AC Power is a 60 cycles sine wave and that wave is subject to noise that is beyond human hearing, that noise alters the shape of the waveform and the altered shape of that waveform affects the way that power supplies receive the AC power, and this is what makes the sound change…

 

It is through eliminating inaudible noise that we get closer to a pure sign wave at 60 cycles or 50 cycles or whatever it may be…

 

And this definitely changes the sound, in fact, I would bet you $10,000 that if you were in my studio and I changed out one power cord in my studio even you would hear it…

 

Engineering degrees skills aside, you could be nearly deaf, and as biased as you are ... and you would hear it, it's not subtle    

@devinplombier thank you, however, I'm only responsible for mastering Brothers, El Camino, and turn blue :)

@mclinnguy that's a difficult question to answer for a variety of reasons

I am proud of every record I do because it sounds good to me and it sounds good to the client. But if we step back from it, there are a handful that I think you might think are fantastic

 

The Teskey Brothers, the winding Way

Chet Faker, built on Glass

The Black Keys, Brothers

Michael Bublé, higher

The greatest showman soundtrack 

Marilyn Manson, the pale emperor

ok go, (newest record) 

Buddy Guy, ain't done with the blues


 

 

Ain't done with the blues and The pale emperor are two of my favorite albums. Pale emperor is Marilyn's best as far as I am concerned.

Naturally this topic inspires polar opposite opinions.  I have approached the problem by assuming power cables *probably* make a difference but I don’t have a lifetime to prove it one way or the other, nor do I have the deep pockets necessary  either.   But I wanted to do something because my power was particularly noisy.  So I decided to compromise.   I looked for reasonably priced power cables that are very well made. I tried Anticables but found them too stiff.  I wanted to buy Shunyata but I didn’t want to spend that much.  I turned to Iconoclast, available through Blue Jeans Cables.  They are beautifully made, very flexible, and most unusually, I could buy the exact length I needed to the inch.  This kept each cable off the floor and not touching any other power cable..  They sounded fine, which met my criteria of reasonably priced and ax. “good enough”. in SQ

On the issue of installing a dedicated line, I’d advise against it.  I had an electrician lay out  a temporary dedicated line running from my panel into my living room and we found it just as noisy as  all the other circuits in the house.  The electrician also tested the line coming directly into the  panel and it was equally noisy, clearly  indicating that installing a dedicated line would just cost me money I could spend more productively elsewhere.  I bought two Tripp-Lite Isolation Transformers instead, one for my digital components, one for my analog components, and they reduced noise to almost zero.