Just Get A Better DAC?


I see that many of you are adding clocks, DDCs and whatever other boxes for better digital.  To those of you who have done this, do you think it would have been a better investment to just buy a better dac?  I realize that it may be financially easier to add pieces one at a time, but I was wondering what those who have done it think. Plus, less boxes and cables, which is a blessing, IMO.  I guess this would also apply to those putting boxes in front of their streamers. 

chayro
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I was a vinyl guy for nearly 40 years with a SOTA vacuum TT and an excellent tone arm and a Dynavector 20x2 cartridge.  None of the several sub-$1K dacs owned could match the fidelity of my analogy playback... until I bought a Ayre QB-9 dac about 10 years ago. Within a week of getting the dac, I sold the analogue rig and have never, even for a moment, looked back.  

I upgraded to the Ayre Codex, which was a sideways move.  Then I got an Aqua La Voce dac which I thought was a pleasant, but not honestly a very noticeable  improvement in SQ.  Last year, I bought a Gustard U18 DDC for the hell of it and I kinda think it yield some degree of SQ improvement but I can't say for sure.  

I got the well lauded Laiv dac and its performance, after a couple of weeks of run in, was indistinguishable from the sound in my system with my Aqua La Voce dac. 

You can view in two different ways.  The Laiv dac matched the performance of my Aqua DAC, and the Aqua dac was far more expensive.  But, given my listening comparison, I was certainly not inclined to keep it so I returned it and remember nothing about restocking fees being so punitive.   It is a stellar dac, but with their current restocking fee, I'd be dubious about trying one. 

 I heard the Topping D90SE dac in a friend's system and was super impressed with it so I came back and we compared my Aqua DAC to his Topping Dac and to both of our 70 year old ears, the delta in SQ was far too narrow to draw any conclusions -- both sounded outstanding, analogue-like.  

Yes, my Gustard, at the margin, seems to yield a quieter background, but honestly, I am doubtful that I could discern its benefit in an A/B test.  

A well-designed dac I think ought to allay the need for a DDC.  And now that musical performance can be had in several dacs for under $1K.  Cheers.

 

I have a Pontus 15 and would like to add the Hermes 15 DDC when it comes out since the 12th is sold out. Anyone have a idea when Denafrips is going to start selling this new Hermes 15th  DDC ?

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A DDC is a great addition if you want to use a PC for streaming.  If you have a high quality streamer with i2s out... no need for a DDC.

Want a great DAC with a built-in streamer for a reasonable price?

Here is one option.

The Modified PS Audio Directstream DAC is a great option.

This is one of the best sounding DAC's that does not sound digital.  The Limited Edition Signature Series PLUS with the all the new bridge II upgrade Streamer network card option. 

It's a DSD / FPGA / Audio Transformer based DAC. No DAC chip!

 To make it even better I would recommend using a pair of fiber media converters to connect it to your network.