which excels at Rock and Roll


Room is 14X14' No treatments, but, room currently sounds great. Amp PASS X250.8, Fritz Carbon 7se bookshelves, LA-4 preamp, SVS SB3000 sub, Bricasti M5 streamer, Meitner DAC, only Rock and Roll, 85 or so DB   Considering used, Platimon VC 1, Arendal 15-28,  Marten  Oscar, Acora MRB-1, and Small tower, Devore Fidelity Gibbon super 9. There are others, but, I believe these would be the top contenders, USED?  Any and all responses welcomed. Love my FRITZ and won't sell. Just considering the above. Thanks, Robert TN

robshaw

 

Ralph Karsten (atmasphere) always makes his above argument. And while in theory it may be correct, in practice it is not. Just one example: If you want to play AC/DC or The Ramones at 100dB, the QUAD ESL is a bad choice; a pair of them is not going to last very long if you do.

 

"Speakers and electronics don't care what music you like or don't and don't favor a certain genre. That is one of the most common an persistent myths in audio. "

I can't argue with that statement. It's obviously correct. However, even though the speakers and electronics don't care, the person listening to the system most likely does. 

 

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@robshaw Speakers and electronics don't care what music you like or don't and don't favor a certain genre. That is one of the most common an persistent myths in audio. 

It really is a myth. No-one has found a way to design either amp or speaker to favor a certain musical genre. They are equally good or bad at their jobs regardless of the genre. 

I agree! I first heard that myth in 1972. smiley

Mike

I think it’s personal taste and how you like your Rock. One of the best live shows I ever heard was Supertramp in a theater with ATC speakers. It was smooth powerful and crystal clear. On the other end of the spectrum for me was Lynard Skynard who recorded all of their music in a loud room with a fair amount of reflection. I realize I’m giving a live Vs recorded example, but for me it’s what I’m in the mood for. Chris Issac doing “ Only the Lonely “ has forward clear vocals and a black background. At the risk of getting burned at the stake , I recently bought some Tekton DI’s because I wanted to play classic rock at 100 db. I’ll probably get tired of them in time and get something entirely different. I have JBL , Klipsch and Zu in my spare closet. I rotate speakers and tube Vs SS amps. I’m considering class D amps for next summer as my 180 wpc tube monos generate a lot of heat. We’re never satisfied , Mike B. 

I have to disagree that components equally reproduce music of all genre. That is the ideal, but in reality it is not true. I used to love electronic music, and I went out auditioning with several electronic music CDs. Like Enigma. I optimized them with speakers and electronics that added to the ethereal nature of the sound. This had drawn me to planar speakers and supporting electronics. But, all the other music sounded worse and worse. This just one of my attempts to use a small selection 

I later optimized on details... and ended up with an incredible system that showed every flaw and made clear the mastering and ambience of the recording... and took the life and soul out of the music... But I could hear every detail in the music. 

Ultimately I spent years tuning my ears to real live acoustic music and used that as a reference, and finally all genre got better at the same time and the soul of music and emotional connection came back. 

Anyway it may not be on purpose, but lots of different equipment makes certain genre sound better. B&W and MacIntosh, with their real heavy bass and midrange let's Ozzy's "OH GOD NO!" followed by an incredible rush of bass and midrange overwhelming. But put on a string quartet and you are missing the details.