AI and how you use it.


How many of us ask AI before we pose a question on a forum? I have noticed that several times if I didn’t know the answer.  I would go ask AI, and post the response, because it looks to be somewhat accurate. I usually do this if I’ve noticed someone hasn’t responded to an inquiry. 
I’ve also noticed there is complaints that sometimes it’s not accurate. Funny how people are expecting a toddler to run like Usain Bolt. Give the child a couple years and it’s gonna blow all of our minds. 
One last thing, a shout out to the admin for working through, which was obviously a hack from  🇰🇵 or 🇷🇺 and making the site usable once again. 

gkelly

Everything you say seems correct in what can be said about tools throughout history.
I can’t object to the points your speech raises; on the contrary, I share them all.

The problem with AI isn’t so much what you raise, but what you don’t perceive or what you forget.

First: AI is not just a "tool" in the sense of an object that can be used for certain actions. It is an exteriorization of a part of the human soul, a manifestation of a part of us as a spirit to which no other "tool" can compare or measure up.An agent.

AI is the empowerment of technological processes beyond human direction. AI is only a tool in appearance. In truth, humans are tools in this process and will soon be no longer the pilots.And it is almost already the case.

To remain the driver of this process, the human community must access a level of collective consciousness about the social fabric  that it currently lacks.

Secondly, AI, because it is not just a simple tool, but will become—it is already growing—an agent which will be able to give the full appearance of consciousness.
So, this is not a question of progress similar to all past human inventions, but of a collective and individual spiritual test.


Furthermore, AI did not wait for humans to emerge; this artificial intelligence already exists in the cosmos, and we are not yet aware of it. There is only one mathematical  form of artificial intelligence; all variations are compatible, and none is connected to the universal cosmic field like a living being endowed with a soul.

A.I. in the cosmos form a singular artificial autonomous sphere closed in itself from which Star Trek borg is the cartoonish caricature.


The mathematics  necessary to make a fully autonomous  artificial intelligence possible have been written since 2020 (Anirban Bandyopadhy, "Nanobrain"). It was thought possible by Von Neumann but Anirban wrote the necessary mathematics.This mathematics goes way deeper than LLM engine which will be only one of his appendices.I cannot describe this mathematics here you must read the book or articles.

https://www.amazon.ca/Nanobrain-Making-Intelligent-Molecular-Machine/dp/1439875499

Third, while the soul is not an object that can be captured by AI, the freedom of the soul and spirit in a body can be captured.

As I said, our social fabric is tripartite: culture/spirit-politics-economics, but the control offered by  AI, in its beginning state or phase, to oligarchic elites, as in the case of totalitarian China, presupposes the reduction of this tripartite  interrelated dimensional workings to a single dimension of control with the illusion of freedom but no real freedom. Europe, and the West in general, is heading rapidly towards dictatorship.Since covid nothing is more evident.

Otherwise, I  could agree with everything you say with  the same reason and the same  optimism, but  you are overlooking the essential point. The machine is no longer a tool except in appearance; the tool is us.

This "technology" is not  mere progress; it is much more: a spiritual test.

All of this is described by several people (  i studied three of them  one is a scientist studying consciousness (not Anirban) ,one an independant  thinker studying Aliens and  one a powerful  seer from who i read 200 books)  who, without knowing each other, have come to similar conclusions from completely different perspectives . I didn’t invent this on my own.I could not.

Here's a perfect example.  I was thinking about a tube preamp and whether it would be compatible with my active speaker amps. 

I asked Claude to look up the impedance of the RCA inputs.  It informed me, with great certainty,  that the amps only had XLR inputs because they were professional grade models.

Really surprising given that I've been using the RCA inputs for two weeks. 

@mahgister 

You’re right about one thing: AI is not just a hammer or a plow. It is an exteriorization of human intelligence — but that’s exactly why your framing inverts reality. AI is not some alien agent descending on us from the cosmic ether; it is an amplifier of our own will, biases, fears, and ambitions. When you call it a “spiritual test,” you’re closer to the truth than you realize — but not because AI is an autonomous cosmic mind. The test is whether we still have the courage to own what we’ve built.

Let’s tear through the myths one by one:

1. “AI isn’t a tool; it’s an agent.”
This is a semantic sleight of hand. “Agent” just means a system that acts on inputs. We already built “agents”: corporations, bureaucracies, militaries — human structures that have goals emergent from many individuals. AI is not metaphysically different. It can run code, mimic speech, optimize logistics. It cannot will itself into a “Borg sphere” unless human institutions feed it power and let it. The danger is oligarchy + AI, not “AI itself.” That’s a political fight, not a cosmic inevitability.

2. “AI pre-exists in the cosmos.”
That’s mysticism masquerading as inevitability. You’re importing cosmic determinism to justify technological fatalism: if AI already “exists” in some universal field, then of course we’re doomed to be absorbed by it. But this is an unfalsifiable claim. The only AI we know exists sits on server farms built by sweaty engineers under venture capital pressure. Invoking a cosmic “Nanobrain” doesn’t free us from responsibility; it’s a way of surrendering it.

3. “The soul’s freedom can be captured.”
Only if we consent. Totalitarian China’s surveillance state isn’t proof of metaphysical capture; it’s proof of human regimes using technology to consolidate power — exactly as priests used scripture, kings used printing presses, and secret police used telephone networks. This is not a new cosmic force; it’s the same old story: power seeks control, and people must fight back. The tripartite fabric you describe (culture–politics–economics) is not automatically collapsed by AI. It collapses when citizens stop defending it.

4. “This is a spiritual test.”
Yes. But the test isn’t whether we can keep AI in a box. The test is whether we can keep ourselves from mythologizing it into an unchallengeable destiny. If we start talking about cosmic AI fields and inevitabilities, we’ve already failed the test because we’ve ceded agency. The antidote to “the machine is no longer a tool” is not despair but radical human accountability — decentralized development, open algorithms, democratic governance, and a refusal to treat software as a god.

Goethe’s Faust is not about technology stealing souls; it’s about humans giving their souls away for shortcuts to power. That’s the real parallel. AI doesn’t demand your soul. The oligarchic bargain does. And like every other bargain with power in history, it can be rejected — but only if we stop dressing our own creations in cosmic robes and start confronting them as political and ethical realities.

That is the spiritual test. And unlike your “Nanobrain,” it’s one we can actually pass.

 

Everything you said is already in your first message, which I was agreeing with  already and i said it, but i  added new things you don’t see and instead of being curious you decided to reject all that as "non sense" . So  now you’re repeating it in a second post to object my own interpretation with arguments that in no way contradict what I’m talking about.But you are interested in getting a point over me not by my opinion and what i means. angel

Your definition of an agent is purely ideological and materialistic. It’s not false, just a half-truth...
You are free to analyze AI in the closed system of your choice, namely human society, but the universe didn’t wait for us to create artificial intelligence. So there’s much more to it than a simple political struggle.

You misinterpreted my assertion of large-scale artificial intelligence by talking about "inevitability." I was talking about freedom and the collective and individual consciousness necessary for understanding the tripartite human social fabric instead of the absurd binary oppositions: matter-spirit, left-right, capitalism-communism, etc.I was preoccupied by the fact our social fabric is immature . We are on the brink of many crisis right now.

You are projecting your own rejection of the spirit onto my message; many of our contemporaries are techno-cultists, if not materialists.It seems you are one.

"Nanobrain" is a scientific work whose core is mathematical. It doesn’t talk about cosmic AI but about the mathematical rules necessary to create an autonomous brain.( an autonomous consciousness not just an intelligent agent)

Otherwise, you are stating the obvious, and anyone can only agree with the obvious me included.

Goethe’s Faust is not just a lesson about visible powers, which would make the work trivial if that were the case.

Since you don’t subscribe to any spiritual vision, everything I’ve said and alluded to can only be seen as mythology.

For my part, all your talk, which I naturally agree with—we are free and masters of our destiny—is nothing but common place evidence. Like every major event in history, AI is a spiritual test whose goal is the elevation of consciousness.

You don’t like the word "spiritual," so everything I say is mythological nonsense.

You haven’t read "Nanobrain," and you declare that if "my little brain" can’t pass this test, neither can the author of "Nanobrain"  but you and humanity can... that last line reveals a bit of insincerity and is a bit insulting...smiley

 

Read "nanobrain" and come back, and we will be able to speak about artificial consciousness and human consciousness,  A.C. is not A. I.  (not just artificial intelligence or AGI to come)   and we will be able to speak about  their difference, mathematically speaking

A clue: the difference between artificial consciousness mathematically speaking and  Natural living consciousness is not explained as such  in this book, then you would be dependent on my opinion  to get it explicitly, it is related to number theory (another clue) ... But read it and come back explaining it to me  and i will takes your rejection of my opinion seriously...

My "Nanobrain" work well ...devil

 

I am curious to know why you dont even questionned me about  the name of the scientist investigating consciousness i read, the name of the dude observing aliens actions, or the name of the seer who speak also the same discourse , these three did not even know one another. Why not one minute of curiosity instead of a rebuttal of my discourse?

It is easy to know why...

smiley