Besides being a fantastic musician, Kleiber had a gift for establishing great rapport with the musicians in the orchestra. He was greatly admired and liked by the players. That is huge. He also had a specific and relatively small repertoire. He didn’t conduct as many different works as other conductors and so dug very deep into the details of the works that he did conduct, Fantastic conductor.
Let's talk music, no genre boundaries
This is an offshoot of the jazz thread. I and others found that we could not talk about jazz without discussing other musical genres, as well as the philosophy of music. So, this is a thread in which people can suggest good music of all genres, and spout off your feelings about music itself.
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Kleiber get the allegretto of my favorite symphony to a new meaningful level...( The greatest musical orchestral movement ever written in my opinion so strong it was in his effect on the soul) I see a seed invincibly pushing rocks to grow... ( i always see music or associate it with images not as a mere poetic expression of my feelings but more like a movie, i can for example wrote a novel about the Bruckner 5th because i listened to it so much and it entered into my imaginative perception as "the meaning of life " itself as we experience it after death , because of the structure of this work especially the final fugue recapitulating and integrating each movement from the beginning. Bruckner rival Bach mastery of fugue here in a way Bach never did.) For me the 7th is the symphony , the art of Beethoven symphony as a creative engine with an irresistible rythm of his own able to liberate humanity from the sleep of inertia , habit, and lack of motives... Music is cure and thought meditation...( the allegretto of the 7th must be able to make some paralysed person to walk again against all odds, which other piece of music can do this? listen to it )
By the way i love Scriabin so much, because all his work motives core is sparking human heart to begin to be divinely creative again as Beethoven was inducing it particularly strongly in the 7th , it is clear as crystal... Beethoven soul (not his style) is Scriabin forebear...A Promethean giant inspiring another one...
«... Scriabin... Where does he come from?
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It's time to talk about Shostakovich, a 20th century composer who cannot be overlooked. I heard his 5th symphony when I was young and have always had it on vinyl, but not a great performance. I did not venture further until Dudamel had a Shostakovich year, and I heard his tenth and twelfth, I think. They were too complicated to really register. I was reading Milan Kundera's "The Unbearable Lightness of Being" a few years ago. In the book he talked about two people staying up all night to discuss Shostakovich's 7th Symphony. So, I have been listening to it since. I posted a youtube video of the piece. It's very long, and if you haven't heard it, just listen to the first movement. @frogman stresses rhythm in music, and I think Shostakovich was deeply into rhythm. |
For me the essence of Shostakovich soul as a musician are his Bach inspired preludes &fugues by Tatiana Nikolaeva...
She was a friend of Shostakovich and a giant pianist in Russia but almost unknown in the West... His playing flow from the source without any ego interference and the Bach majestic inspiration behind Shostakovich appear and makes him a brother of the German God... As anecdote Shostakovich feared so much Stalin, unlike Maria Yudina who scorned Stalin in his face about his great sins and refuse his money, that he waited sleep each night with a minimalistic luggage waiting under hisw bed in case he was deported in the Gulag... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyURjdnYQaU&list=PLiMumVBefK9IpPgqVqyJ33E4IDGiTK_-U
As an aside, Russian music is so badly known in the West , that the best bio of Scriabin (690 pages) written by an American musician who lived in Russia in 1969 , Faubion Bowers, dont even mention in his first chapter about the history of Russian Music the name of the stupendous genius Dmitry Bortnyansky (1751-1825) one of the greatest choral music composer not only in Russia but everywhere, Faubion Bowers begin speaking about Glinka...But nowadays after the stupendous recording of the Choral concertos by Poliansky it is a marvel to hear it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54VRvokl77Y&list=PLDML4XZqb7ZHN3VNnLwu__rtYZy8bWfPG
The West ignore Russia...
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Here the goddess Nikolaeva pianist concert : Listen his Ravel and his Scriabin, no ego only music : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6liIhgiSDQ&list=RDV6liIhgiSDQ&start_radio=1
Listen how she played Bach : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pKgAy7SQkE&list=RD_pKgAy7SQkE&start_radio=1
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