Let's talk music, no genre boundaries


This is an offshoot of the jazz thread. I and others found that we could not talk about jazz without discussing other musical genres, as well as the philosophy of music. So, this is a thread in which people can suggest good music of all genres, and spout off your feelings about music itself.

 

audio-b-dog

I agree that everybody has their own musical taste. And I think it’s all good because music of all types "soothes the soul."

This is a common place true fact nobody can contest...

 All poetry and all music soothe the soul...

But how this fact is supposed to contradict my point about the "spiritual depth" of some musical pieces in all cultures and styles ?

 The fact that i used Scriabin, an important composer, does not means i imposed my taste; i explained why i use him to describe the abyss between tonal music , atonal music and a genius who discover a third region where to live..

 When we discuss we must be of good faith and dont use someone post to return it against him as "his taste"  dictatorship instead of understanding what is the point of his argument...

If we dont understand something we must have the humility to say it and not killing the messenger ...

The fact that this "spiritual depth" in some music pieces is linked to "timbre" perception by our body and his relation to musical time as not measurable, is my main point  to judge musicianship...

Is this means that i impose Scriabin or Ali Akbar Khan taste ?

No.... If you are of good faith ...

 

 

 

@mahgister @larsman 

I think maybe we should try to define "soul" and "spiritual depth," especially regarding music. I have some very definite and unusual ideas, so I won't begin. They would throw us into a different solar system. But I will go after you do.

I speak for nobody but me, but I think what most people would think of as 'souls' don't exist. I don't believe in any kind of afterlife/afterdeath, other than as recycled atoms. The music of the spheres!

'Spiritual depth' I perceive as conscience. But everybody has their own definitions, I reckon. 

The five articles i used spoke for me about "spiritual depth" experience of "sound"  and in a few words :

Spiritual depth experience  in music is perceived  musical time through the microdynamics gesture of "timbre"  which transcend measured time  and this is is where is the "spiritual depth " of music : Between timbre of the vibratings sound sources (musician+instrument) and their time dimensions, measurable and non measurable,

 

Soul existence is a demonstrated fact in CIA laboratory and in medical hospitals..

Believing in soul or not is beside the fact...

Remote viewing is proven fact as is perception out of the body, OBE and NDE etc 

Then the word "soul" means at least in a minimal way perception at distance  of physical or non physical meaning...In a maximal way of meaning it means that you are not your body at all. You  are only kept alive or dead  in his set of filters, alive if you think by yourself, dead if you are a robot with no critical thinking...

Believing in matter only is being dead...

As John Vervaeke demonstrated there is a reason why there is so many "zombies" movies now... ( the most boring movies ever in my opinion)