Let's talk music, no genre boundaries


This is an offshoot of the jazz thread. I and others found that we could not talk about jazz without discussing other musical genres, as well as the philosophy of music. So, this is a thread in which people can suggest good music of all genres, and spout off your feelings about music itself.

 

audio-b-dog

@mahgister 

"I will go for his Strauss and his Rachmaninoff..."

I don’t know if you are talking about Bruno Walter. I think he is best known for Wagner and Mahler. It is only on Beethoven’s 6th for which he is famous, and only his latter performance at 80. I have a collection of him playing all of Beethoven’s symphonies prior to stereo. Perhaps made in the early fifties. As I said earlier, Carlos Kleiber is almost undisputed on Beethoven’s 5th. I will paste the youtube. I think, however, he also is first rate on Beethoven’s 7th. I have a bunch of Beethoven symphony collections people gave me when they got rid of their vinyl collections. It’s almost confusing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNpyRBVTavQ

I am listening to Ivan Moravec playing Mozart's 20th Piano Concerto. Not like anything I've heard before. Very impressive.

@mahgister 

"I will go for his Strauss and his Rachmaninoff..."

I was speaking of the singer Asmik Grigorian...

 

My godly pianist (badly recorded as usual) playing a godly composer : 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRD78IG4VN8&list=RDJRD78IG4VN8&start_radio=1

The reason why, is because music is not only only about  timing, or timbre colors, it is about a dimension of time, the musical time, which cannot be measured in any way possible, only felt, because it is a quality.

The cosmos is centered around these times qualities as an orchestra masterly directed  by a maestro who is one with the musicians. As Furtwangler was claimed Gergiev. This is why his 4 th of Schumann is unique if not the best for everybody,the best for me.

 

 
 

 

 

I dont know much about music as musicians know about it...

I will be frank, i dont listen too much many new  music pieces why ?

Because i was enthralled by some classical music over every other because of some interpretation...

I hate opera but i am in love with some operas because of the interpretation...

I discovered simply that in classical music i love to be moved, some interpretation did, most did not...

It is why i spoke about "the greatest interpretation" for me , i must add for me...

there is greater interpretation so great that all the rest of music may appear way under it...

It is how i fell in love with Marian Anderson or Scriabin...

miracles exist. Not all is about taste. Some interpretations are so sublime that they are a revelation (for me) ...

And i hope they will appear such for all or at least a few...

Gesualdo is boring sang by most, sublime sang by inspired singers..A volcano...

This is why i love Gesualso, because i discovered some musicians able to sing the impossible...

That is for me the greatest interpretation..

 

I was awaken by some interpretation that stayed for me the greatest,... Sometimes it reflect my personal idiosyncracy but sometimes it is also  a universally recognized fact as for Furtwangler in the Schumann fourth...Or about Sofronitsky recognized as a sublime pianist over all in Scriabin even recognized as such by Richter and many others great pianists...

 

 

 

 

 

 

@mahgister @stuartk 

I understand how youthful passions stay with us. And Sofronitsky definitely captures the passions of Scriabin. I'm not always into that kind of passion, though. For me, sometimes music is just about beauty. And that's a huge word, I know. It's definition could almost be that we all know it when we see it.

I'm posting Mozart's 21st Piano Concerto, which I think is like a perfectly cut diamond. You'll notice the album cover is from a movie from the sixties. It was about two beautiful people who tried to leave society, and, of course, like Romeo and Juliet found this to be impossible. I have worn out this album several times and have had to repurchase a mint copy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPKW37ZZeFw