Let's talk music, no genre boundaries


This is an offshoot of the jazz thread. I and others found that we could not talk about jazz without discussing other musical genres, as well as the philosophy of music. So, this is a thread in which people can suggest good music of all genres, and spout off your feelings about music itself.

 

audio-b-dog

Monteverdi as Gesualdo as Scriabin are not something we catch on the spot ...

They are an acquired taste even for those who liked them at first listening...

They are expressive artists on a high level, Gesualdo is almost more "modern" than most classical composer in the 20 th century...

 

 

@mahgister 

I was listening to Monteverdi yesterday. I didn't like his madigrals from book 8 but I did like a long piece very much. I think it was something about the creation.

@audio-b-dog 

Thanks for the recommendation. I have a disc of Uchida playing Debussy. 

As far as spirituality goes, a fairly common hurdle for many of us appears to be our conditioned conceptions of the Divine and awakening. Don Juan constantly challenged Castaneda’s rigid assumptions and expectations. Bulent Rauf did the same with Reshad Feild. So it could be said each of us has our own "personal dogma".    ;o)

@stuartk 

I have that disk of Uchida playing Debussy’s Etudes, and so far I haven’t been able to get into them. They have no lyrical quality I can hang onto. Perhaps they’re too complex for me. I love all other piano music by him that I’ve heard, and I’ve heard a lot. I have a lot of people playing him. My favorite is an old album of Phillipe Entremont playing various pieces. Entremont is probably not an "exacting" interpreter because he never gets mentioned in online posts. He is very lyrical, and even if he is a bit schmultzy, I like him. I particlarly like Debussy’s Images, both for the piano and orchestra.

As far as spirituality goes, I think I’m going to be on an island by myself. From various pieces of research which do not directly relate to one another, I am piecing together a spirituality around the feminine and masculine. I do not consider myself a particularly spiritual person, but perhaps I’m not evaluating myself correctly.

In the youtube post below, there is a picture of the album I like with Entremont playing "Claire de Lune."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRBVSgJUFjg

@mahgister 

I will continue to listen to more Monteverdi. What book of his madrigals do you like the best?

I love them all ...

but i am very picky about interpretation...

 

If i compute my listenings, i had my version of my beloved 8th book for 50 years now...

Then i had listend to it more than 500 times... In this book i was in love with a czech  interpretation against all italian odds... Prague  madrigalist with Venhoda...

He infuse a dynamic which makes each short piece an operatic drama not just a poem...

it is a living interpretation not a static one...

i cannot live without it...

https://www.amazon.ca/Madrigals-War-Love-Monteverdi/dp/B00000353D?crid=18S3DU7FSHUZ8&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.XR2qofKcYt2SFXyzRFoPCw.fCgxiHiLvsRrTcVd0TUcNXpEx8TCRcD6P1KVxLK--FY&dib_tag=se&keywords=Monteverdi+venhoda&qid=1753579626&s=music&sprefix=monteverdi+venhoda%2Cpopular%2C141&sr=1-1

All other interpretation so sophisticated they are, and italian interpretation are very good indeed but  fail to transport me  as much as Venhoda...

Save Michel Corboz  a Swiss maestro i like very much but i had lost my few albums without bein able to own them again ...

 

I recommend also Gesualdo the supreme master of the madrigals in his classical form so to speak, because Monteverdi goes toward opera quitting poetic declamation of each words as did Gesualdo who sound more contemporary than many modern  composer...

He was a Prince who killed his wife and his lover and pass the rest of his life tormented by remorse and created such deep vibrant music nothing ever written compare ... here i recommend the transcendant version of Quintetto vocale italiano ...Stunning nothing compare...

https://www.amazon.ca/Gesualdo-Madrigals-Voices-Books-Complete/dp/B0085AXU4A