Linn Bedrok LP12 Plinth Upgrade

@newton_john you seem to fail to comprehend that as the LP12 increases in price that it now encounters more able competition. To the more sophisticated consumer, that now leads them away from the Linn turntable. Remember that the table still has several issues that are, at least to the advanced hobbyists, problematic. One is the fact that the table cannot utilize multiple tonearms, two, the fact that the current arm is not competitive at the highest level, and three, the table will always be susceptible to issues with set up, requiring a ‘fettler’ ( many of whom in the US are becoming extinct). I can go on and on. But don’t get me wrong, I am still a big Linn fan, just not a blind and besotted fan…the type that Linn are hoping to sell their plinth to.

Also,your second sentence is complete nonsense, why because by adding over $11k to the table for the cost of just the plinth, Linn have now absolutely changed the ratio of cost/value to their competitors.

@daveyf

Of course, you and other sophisticated consumers will make decisions about turntables as you see fit. That is as it should be,

Where you are completely wrong is to claim that the game has changed because the price of the LP12 has increased. It hasn’t increased at all. The Majik, Select and Klimax versions and all other permutations of the LP12 available up to now are as competitive with other turntables as they have ever been.

The fact that we now have a new Bedrok version of the LP12 doesn’t change that. You are talking as if the Bedrok has become compulsory. Clearly it isn’t.

Yes, the Bedrok version of the LP12 will be competing in a higher price bracket, but with a higher level of performance. I don’t know how well it will sell. Or even if Linn care about that. They may be relying on upgrade sales to existing Klimax LP12 owners.

For all we know, it might give Linn access to a new market segment. I can’t say. The only indication we have is that they appeared to have done very well out of the considerably more expensive LP12-50, despite the chorus of naysayers online. So it is a fair presumption that they know what they are doing here.

@newton_john I am not saying that the entry level price of the LP12 Majik is any less competitive than it was before, nor the other variations up to the Klimax. But I do think that when you add the cost of the new Bedrok to the Klimax, or probably for that matter even the Akurate model, you now encounter, as a consumer, a larger range of competitors that may or may not be more to your liking. Obviously, no one has to opt for the Bedrok plinth, but the question becomes if they do, have these very same buyers done their homework?

@daveyf

In that case, we are in agreement.

I have already said that the new Bedrock version of LP12 enters a new segment of the market, different from where the current Select and Klimax configurations are positioned. No one can know for sure how successful this venture will be.

As I am not currently considering any turntable purchases, the number of competitors the LP12 has is neither to my liking or disliking. These are not football teams to support, merely products that some people may chose between. It’s not a matter of being a fan of anything.

We’ve already been through the various reasons why a Klimax LP12 owner might chose to upgrade to the Bedrok. I don’t subscribe to your somewhat jaundiced view that those who follow this route are blind and besotted.

In Europe, a Clearaudio Innovation is under €11,000. That gets you two panzerholz/alu chassis, plus ceramic magnetic bearing, stainless/POM platter etc.